What is the BEST Reverb Software?

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greggybud said:
Waves Mastering Bundle which includes what I think is the BEST software reverb anywhere.
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I'm pretty sure the Masters Bundle doesn't come with a reverb. The Native Gold, Native Power Pack, or Renaissance bundles do. As far as I know TrueVerb and Renaissance Reverb are the only two they offer, right?

barefoot
 
barefoot said:
I'm pretty sure the Masters Bundle doesn't come with a reverb. The Native Gold, Native Power Pack, or Renaissance bundles do. As far as I know TrueVerb and Renaissance Reverb are the only two they offer, right?

barefoot
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Yes you are absolutely correct. I have the flu and my brain is out to lunch. What i meant to say were the mastering EQs....NOT reverbs.
 
I've been using waves RVerb alot over the last couple months. I just tried out ReverbX (thanks to tubedude's endorsement). Seems like it is a little less versatile, but it sounds very good. It has a warm, sweet sound. The waves sound, by comparison, is a bit colder. I'd also say that waves Rverb is a bit more trasparent, while reverbX leaves more of a mark. Of course, this could just be a factor of my configuration. I particularly like 'warm plate' reverbX. On reverbX, I find that even when I have the reverb set too high, instead of flinching at an unatural sound, it is actualy pleasant to listen to.

On my dual MP1600, at 24bit 96K, I can just barely run reverbX with the Hall, Room, and Auditorium algorithms. It's the biggest CPU hog I've seen to date.
 
I just had a listen again to the Sonic Timeworks reverb (first time in a long time), and I don't know if there's something wrong with my system, or if it's my ears or what . . .

but I think it sounds rather horrible. The decay just sounds so unnatural, I can't even listen to it. In contrast, I've been using the Waves RVerb for some time now, and I'm a big fan of their "bigger" verbs like their Great halls, cathedrals and churches.

The longer decays just sound so much more natural than the "falling-off-a-cliff" decays I hear with the Timeworks and some of the other ones.

Maybe I just got a bad demo or something. Is that possible?
 
It does seem to me that reverbX is more audible than Rverb. Then again, there are parameters to adjust damping and decay time. I wouldn't call it horrible - it definitely sounds better than any other verb plugin I've used outside of RVerb. I also like the Cathederal and Hall of RVerb.
 
I noticed all the verbs mentioned, and I have a whole collection of TDM verbs, I think 9 in total.
The only one I use is the TC Megareverb. Outside the TDM platform I would reccommend the TC Powercore, which comes with the megareverb as well as a bunch of other, outstanding, processing units. The powercore is in fact its "own" computer, designed for high end audio processing, and it works like a dream both on a PC as well as a Mac platform.
 
barefoot said:


3. No, I'm not willing or able to buy any outboard units right now, so lets stick to opinions on SOFTWARE reverbs.


barefoot
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Barefoot, you're killing me. The first effect one buys is reverb. Its as important as the mic.

for the price you pay for one of those reverbs, you could buy
a used
lexcion lxp-1
roland srv 330
boss se- 50
tc m-one

and have sound that actually pleases you
 
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CyanJaguar said:


Barefoot, you're killing me. The first effect one buys is reverb. Its as important as the mic.

for the price you pay for one of those reverbs, you could buy
a used
lexcion lxp-1
roland srv 330
boss se- 50
tc m-one

and have sound that actually pleases you
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But, see a mic isn't very inportant to me - so far. I'm making almost 100%
*e l e c t r o n i c* *m u s i c*.
The only time my music enters the analog realm is when it comes out of my sound card.

barefoot
 
in this situation, the reverb is even MORE important.

to me, great electronic music is the one that is able to create that wonderful space.

If you must stick to software though. I agree with sjoko2 on the tc reverb. It sounds very good and warm. rverb is also good but a cpu hog. Trueverb is useable but you have to turn off the early reflections and use a high density and pretty much use the biggest room size available.
 
I wonder how rverb compares to some of the hardware out there...
 
bdemenil said:
I wonder how rverb compares to some of the hardware out there...
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Very favorably - don't take that as a "they are better" or "software reverbs are great".
The lower end software verbs downright suck - but then the lower end hardware ones do exactly that too.
The high end ones, like the TC I mentioned, compares very favrably with its high-end hardware equivalent.

An extra element to consider regarding hardware vs software effect processing is that at the mixing stage, using a hardware effect means in most cases 2 more conversions and time-adjustment.
 
Im pretty late ito this thread and to be honest,,, I didn't read any of the above posts, so I have no clue whats being discussed..

To revert back to the original question.. my choices are..

Trueverb is amazing...Sounds beautiful..

D-verb is a bit less amazing but really quick to use, so I usually grab for it..
 
TC Powercore looks hot, but it doesn't classify completely as software (you can't try out the warez version for free ); It is in the same price range as Waves and it comes with its own DSP card - I wonder how the quality compares. The specs say 24bit - 96K and above. I wonder what the 'above' means.

I'm likeing ReverbX more every day. To me, sounds a bit less metalic than RVerb.
 
The TC powercore isn't software, its basically an independent computer designed for audio processing only. The quality of the plug-ins that come with it, combined with its phenominal processing capacity make it a pretty much unbeatable package.

The "above" you mention - processing is floating point, and therefore can go well beyone 24 bit.

If you want to know how good the plug-ins are, you can download trial versions from TC's website - then imagine they sound better on the powercore.
 
The TC powercore isn't software, its basically an independent computer designed for audio processing only.
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sjoko - from what I understand from the specs, this isn't exactly right. It looks like the algorithms are coded in software, but the actual processing is done by the fairly generalized CPUs on the included PCI card rather than by your computer's CPU. I imagine one of the benefits of this is that it's harder to hack. The specs say that internal processing is done at 48bit double precission - which is impressive - equal to good hardware. They also say the same basic algorithms are used as in TC's outboard gear, but I wonder if they paired it down a bit for this.
 
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If you want to know how good the plug-ins are, you can download trial versions from TC's website
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Please direct me to where you can download these. I couldn't find it.
 
sjoko2 said:
The TC powercore isn't software, its basically an independent computer ...

If you want to know how good the plug-ins are, you can download trial versions from TC's website - then imagine they sound better on the powercore.
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it's software...running on a Power PC chip and DSP (still only software or firmware) on another board that communicates through the PCI buss.

the only reason a plugin would sound better on the Powercore board is because the plugin algorithm is different than the downloadable one...if they run the same algorithm then they'll sound the same...there's no technical reason why the Powercore should sound better than a Native plugin, other than the algorithm used...DSP's don't have an innate audio superiority...it's all in the software...
 
http://www.tcworks.de/home/content/en/Welcome/render_top
go to support, there you'll find the download site.

Please note that the processing of the plug-ins does not happen on 'generalized' CPU's on the card.
The chips on the card are especially designed for audio, and the card itself processes the effects, not the host computer's system.
Basically, this means that the card is a single-purpose computer system, with an OS designed to process audio only.
If then you look at the speed with which the card is able to do this, you get someting approaching roughly three to four times the speed of a top-of-the-line Pentium PC.
Naturally this does effect the quality of processing, but there are additional benefits, such as reduced latency.
 
sjoko2 said:
TC Powercore = hardware
Plug-ins are software
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wrong...it's software running on DSP's and a Power PC chip...it's software. hardware executes the instructions...but software controls the CPU/DSP.

a DSP is nothing more than a CPU scaled for a specific purpose. digital HW reverb units are still software (firmware) running an algorithm on a CPU/DSP. a general purpose CPU like an INTEL P4 can run the same algorithm if coded so.
 
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