What is an acceptable noise floor........

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using n-track, tracking a mic'd amp into a mixer then to the soundcard? It probably depends on a lot of different factors in the signal chain but I'm wondering what is levels you are getting when you view the n-track record vu-meters.

thanks,

rpe
 
I get different levels based on the computer. My Dell bigvanillabox has a nearly silent floor; the only grunge is from signal I toss in - may pick up something from a mixer, or the parakeets in the next room, and so forth. But when I tried it on my laptop - with its "soundchip" - UGH. -40dB without signal. No point in going any further with that.
 
Thanks Tree

I'm trying different attenuation options (amp, mixer, sound card gains) to discover the lowest noise level while still getting a strong enough signal.

rpe
 
I've always been told to start with a strong signal and cut progressively through the signal chain so as to avoid adding noise at each stage. So my mixer usually has a pretty high trim setting and I shut off anything not absolutely necessary to run raw signal into the computer. I'm dealing with borderline equipment, so it's a challenge and sometimes the track is noisy as the dickens.

But if the preamps are kicking in with greater noise after a certain attenuation level, maybe there's a way around it. I've found the virtual preamps in the n-track effects units are pretty good. So one experiment might be to run signal into a mixer with with the channel trims down a bit ( like a third or so ) and see whether boosting signal with a reverb or short echo virtual preamp later in the chain improves the sound floor or makes it worse.

I've also been experimenting with volume envelopes in n-track to cut any signal not necessary for a mix. It's a pain but it helps. I haven't learned much about compression yet (other than reading everything here I can find!!) and that'll be the next thing to tackle.

But I guess there's just no substitute for a good mic and a good preamp, any way you look at it...
 
DELTA 44.

if i got no inputs there, but i select monitor - i get -85db

now as for my room, it is a terrible room, so lets just say its noisy.ha
 
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