What do you think to this? -

[farmertml]

Hi Guys,

I just messed around in my "studio" at home this morning (im not a good guitarist or drummer) but i like to just play for fun.

I recorded a little track, Its nothing special at all, i just really wanna find a good drum sound before i give the ok for my mates to record their song in my "studio".


THIS IS THE MP3


I Have the Sure 6 Mic Set + Rhode NT-1 and other condensers to play with (im only using the bass mic, snare mic and the 2 overheads that come in the set to record but can use SM57 / 8's off a friend if needed.

I just wanna get a good Bass drum sound, this track didnt take long to record and took about 15 mins setting up time.


One thing i would really like is if anyone has any ideas on how to get a Punchy Kick sound (one that clicks preferably!)

Any other suggestions welcome.

I know im a crap drummer and I go out of time at the end (due to headphone issues lol!!)

Thanks Guys for any helpful suggestions.

Please remeber im self tought musician so please dont flame about my skills cos I allready know

Farmer

 

[scrubs]

The kick sound you are getting sounds very weak on my small (5" woofer) monitors, but is better on a sub-woofer system. That suggests to me that you've got a fair amount of sub-50Hz energy. The real thump of kick should be in the 80-120Hz region.

Tuning and placement are really going to be your keys, I think. A resonant head with a hole in it is probably the ticket. Place the mic inside the hole pointed at the beater. You might even try a 57 outside the beater head to capture a little more beater click. Make sure you're using a hard beater (like plastic) for a clicky sound, and you can even tape a metal washer to the head where the beater strikes for additional click.

 

[breeeeza]

i persume you dont want the 'hardcore' click so i wouldnt use the metal washer or plastic beater unless you did want that and if you do want the 'hardcore' click then what was mentioned above is a very good idea.

If you just want more punch and the so called 'click' of the beater striking the head then place the mic inside the drums (through a hole in the head) and have it facing where the beater strikes. This will give it more attack. That microphone isnt supposed to be a good microphone, alltough i have it, i have exactly the same set as you. Anyway if your not getting enough 'click' put a sm58 you said you had spare on the beater side of the bass drum poiting at the beater (have it quite close to the beater) and that will give it alot of attack. If thats not enough try the metal washer and plastic beater method as that deffinatly works.

BTW if you have an unused XLR cable and a reasonably big speaker make a subkick. I made one and because the bass drum mic isnt very good, i think it lacks very low frequencys, the subkick and the bass drum mic go very well together.

Thanks

 

[farmertml]

Thanks Guys, this has been a great help!!!
Scrubs, your info on frequencies has been extremely interesting and i might have to play around with it, Do you possibly have any documentation regarding this kind of recording technique - how to modify placement for certain frequencies, or do i have to play it by ear really?

Also Thanks!! to Breeeeza for the info, is there anychance you could explain a "SUB KICK" a bit more clearly - I have a 24 channel desk avaliable to record into aswell, its a Makkie one.

I guess what your saying is play the kick through a speaker and record that?
I have some big PA speakers and one of the band members will bring his 12" Bass Speaker too, possibly use that?

Thanks Guys, you've been amazing so far, any more help much appreciated,!!

Farmer