What do you think of this PC?

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This is the PC I am about to put together for recording:



-1 Noise Control Silverado Heatsink fan
-1 Athlon 2100
-2 Seagate Barracuda Ultra ATA 100 7200 RPM 80 G
-1 Soyo Dragon Ultra Motherboard
-1 HP DVD 100I Drive or maybe the PIONEER DVR-A04
-1 DVD R Drive:Don’t have any preference
-2 80 mm Silencer Cooling Fans, these: http://www.pcpowerandcooling.com/products/alarmandaccesories/silencerfan/index.htm
-2 Kingston 512 MB PC 2700 DDR 333MHz
- 1 Enermax EG365P-VE (FC).

-1 Noblesse Case from here:
http://www.colorcases.com/cases/cases.html
-1 GeForce4 Ti 4200 Video Card
-1 Windows XP Pro

I already have a Mackie 1604 VLZ fresh from Ebay and a Delta 1010. I plan on going with Sonar2.0 for recording software and with the genelec 1029 for monitors.

Any thoughts?:cool:
 
Stop bragging you bastard:D :D :D



Now I'm jealous, my system's crap right now:(
 
Sounds great! You will have a very good setup.

I would've went with a Pentium 4, but it doesn't really matter when you're talkin speed like that.

Look for other advice besides mine, though. I'm a newbie! :)

What, no CD burner? j/k
 
Nope Alonso! That setup just won't cut it.
Processors to slow, Disks are to small and you definately don't have enough RAM.
Back to the drawing board son. ;)
 
Alonso, looks pretty sweet. That thing is double my system in every aspect :). I can't imagine how you could ever use up all your resources or storage, but I'm sure you'll find a way.
 
I think some people just think they need to rub it in because they have technical know how and money? Just joking!!!!
 
jajajaja, nice wisecracks and jokes. I am surely not bragging about my soon to be setup. This is the work of 6 months research and 6 months saving. The dvd burner will also burn CDs but if it aint fast enough ißl have to get one though. This setup without monitor goes for $153o, if anyone needs any info about it I´ll be glad to share the resources.
 
Alonso.... don't take this as a shot at YOU because it isn't - more just an observation about the computer industry in general. We are being sold Ferrarris to drive to the corner store. The *average* home user uses their computer for little more than surfing the net, and a bit of word processing. You can do both of these rather efficiently on a Pentium 133 with a cable modem.

Onto audio.... a much more demanding system is needed. When I put my system together about 3 years ago, it TOTALLY rocked!! With it, I get about 24 tracks of audio playback (+/- depending on EQ, effects, VST instruments, etc.) with a typical assorment of effects, EQ, etc. I can record 4 inputs at a time with no drop-outs. (I don't know if I can do more or not,... never tried.) It does pretty well everything that I want it to do!! What was this rockin' system, you ask? Get ready to laugh.... PII Celeron 466, 384MB ram, 7200rpm Quantum Fireball H.Drive (20gig), Win98.

Sure it has its limitations, but it does what I want it to do. What do you want YOUR system to do?? You may be heading into WAY overkill!! Or, maybe not. I remember reading a thread somewhere about how many instances of (I think it was) Waves Renaissance Reverb (apparently VERY processor hungry) without choking the processor....

Chris
 
Chris, is it a PII or a Celeron. There's a big difference.
 
cris, right now I want a PC for recording that will allow me to do whatever I want it to do without thinking about limitations regarding to how many plugins it can handle, that could track with 8 inputs at the same time, that doesn´t have those frequent dropouts, a system I know that I can count on and that has me more than covered so I just havr to worry about making music.
 
Maybe someone could think that two 80 gig HHD´s is way too much storage, but think that the difference in cost between a 60 and an 80 gig HHD is just about $20, and what are 20 bucks?
 
Alonso.... your proposed system will certainly do what you want it to do. For drive speed, you will get a good number of tracks, and with your RAM, you'll be able to use a good deal of samples, etc. if that is what you're into. With a rockin' processor like that, you'll be able to use FX, EQ, etc. till the cows come home, leave for outer space, and come home again!!

Eyeslikefire... I'm sorry.... I hadn't realized that there was a difference between Pentium and Celeron. It is a Celeron processor at 466Mhz. I guess I just assumed that the range of processor speeds would make this a PII, but technically, I guess it's all a matter of who makes it, right? An AMD at 1.5Ghz is still an AMD, not a PIV. Have I got the line of thinking right? While we're at it, I have heard mixed opinions about Celeron processors. What is it that people seem to not like about them?

Chris
 
Some reports in my country suggest that AthlonXP 2100+ is not a very good one, for it cannot pass some tests......
 
sounds like a nice system. a few comments though. Why get a 80 gig Windows drive? I would instead get a 40GB for the OS drive, keep the 80 for recording, but upgrade them both to ATA 133. I really see no sense in an OS drive of 80GBs. I use a 20 and have 4 partitions for things that i need including games, and ive fit everything i need on it. Just a thought. Besides, you dont need that much storage if you got a DVD burner. The biggest project ive ever done was 5GBs and that was like 25 songs 14 tracks each. Though it would be nice to have of course.

Also, i dont know much about that motherboard. But definately DO NOT slouch on this. It is in my honest opinion that the motherboard is the most important piece in the entire computer. If its crappy, the computer could run half the speed of the CPUs potentual. The board you have may be nice, but if its not, and there are nicer more stable motherboards, spend the extra money for it.

Also, i think i would rather have a Dual CPU than just one. Maybe a Dual 1800 instead of just one 2100. Or get two 2100's if you can. Its almost the same concept with having two harddrives. Youll be much more consistent on your cpu bandwidth.

Also. Why get such a nice video card? Having better 3D graphics will not help you at all with recording audio. Instead get something like a Nvidia Geforce 2 MX-400 with the DUAL monitor display. Then get 2 17" or 19" monitors to really maximise your monitor space for your audio apps. This is definately one thing i wish i had right now.

Danny
 
I like the system, but I'd use Windows 2000.

I have a 1GHz Intel w/2 40G 7200 rpm drives and 256 mb ram, using a Delta 1010 and Sonar 1.3. I like Win2K. I have XP on my internet machine but not my music box. I just think there's too much crap on it and Win2K (for me) is very stable. Boot up and shut down are extremely fast.

I seldom push the drives past 15% even when playing back 10 tracks while recording 8 (16 bit right now). Plug ins are a CPU hog, though. I'm pushing CPU to 80% on a tune with 20-24 tracks. I'm probably using about 15 plugs.

You should have a great machine. Good luck.
 
Chris Tondreau said:
I have heard mixed opinions about Celeron processors. What is it that people seem to not like about them?

Chris
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The cache. (on chip memory)
The Celeron has 64k I think, while the PII's have 256k.
I may not seem like much but when using processor intense plug-ins, direct-x ect. it makes a big difference.
 
Hey eyeslikefire... no kidding!! That does seem somewhat significant, though I *rarely* find myself wishing I had more. It is certainly something to consider for when I upgrade my system. Of course, in a couple of years, when I do this, I'll probably get like a PVI 5.4Ghz processor, as they will be nice and cheap - bordering on obsolescence by the forthcomming PVII's running at 10+Ghz! :D

Chris
 
10+ ghz?

Next they'll be able to run a human body with a pentium:(
 
Run a human body with a pentium.... You know, they probably could with the caffiene-injection USB adaptor and the new edition of Viagra RAM!! (females would have a special disc-access adapter Vulva DMA) :D

Chris
 
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