What do you think of my setup?

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Enchilada

Strange person.
Hello all :D
I wan't sure where to post this so here will do.
I'm new to this home recording thing so what does everyone think of my idea of a setup to get me started?

Microphones:
Vocal Marshall MXL V67G
Drums Nady DMK7
Amp/Accoustic Studio Projects B1
Benson BA30

Mixer Behringer UB1204 Pro

Computer/Bass DI Behringer MIC200, already got this, bass sounds AWESOME

Recorder Korg D16 with th HDD upgraded to 60GB

I figure What I'll do is record the band live with 8 mics, just to gat a ROUGH sound. Then bounce that all into one track, and then stick a set of headers on the drummer and record him with the remaining 7 tracks (lucky I only have 7 drum mics). Then bounce the drums to one track..... and so on and so forth.

All up it will end up costing me roughly $3000 :eek: and I'll be aquiring bits and pieces over the next 3-6 months.

Any thoughts, tips for a dummy using a Korg D16?

Cheers,
Enchilada
 
um...or you could just record the drums on all channels while a guitarist plays with him..then bounce that sucker down to one. I always hated following recorded guitarist when i was recording drums.


Monitors?

If this is your first hack at recording, i wouldn't recommend going in head first. You may found out that you will spend more time learning how to use the equipment then on actually recording..


just my 2 rubles


Lata.have fun
 
Enchilada said:
All up it will end up costing me roughly $3000 :eek: and I'll be aquiring bits and pieces over the next 3-6 months.
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For that amount of money, you could go to a good mid-line studio and do a whole album (stereo drums and everything). If you are well rehearsed, and aren't trying to make 'The Wall' you can get in and out of a studio pretty quickly. In my experience, a rock band can do 3-4 song demo in 10-15 hours. It will be a little rough around the edges, but it can always be remixed as long as the performance is good and the sound quality is there.
The sound quality is going to suffer because of all the compromises you will have to make along the way. (bouncing the drums to 1 track, etc) And you will not be able to remix it to any great extent because of all the bouncing you are doing. You will also make mistakes along the way (we all do) that will cost you time and asprin. If you are just trying to record yourselves to make sure the songs work and to try ideas, you are spending too much money and making it more complicated than it has to be.
 
For 3000 bucks to record an album I'd say save a little and:

Mackie CR1604 16 channel mixer 250$
Alesis HD24 24 channel hard disk recorder 1200$
Moderate PC for mixing/mastering 700$
Universal Audio UAD-1 $500
TC Powercore 500$
Event 20 monitors 400$

And rent the microphones as you need them.
 
Cloneboy Studio said:
For 3000 bucks to record an album I'd say save a little and:

Mackie CR1604 16 channel mixer 250$
Alesis HD24 24 channel hard disk recorder 1200$
Moderate PC for mixing/mastering 700$
Universal Audio UAD-1 $500
TC Powercore 500$
Event 20 monitors 400$

And rent the microphones as you need them.
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But you have just spent $3000 and still have to rent mics. The monitors are kinda crummy and they will be mixing in a non acoustically treated bedroom (or basement, living room, etc). They will have to fight the learning curve. both the uad and the powercore have very powerful processes that are wonderful (in the right hands) but could also be more than enough rope to hang themselves with. (the finalizer plug-in alone could be the death of a project. The LA2A and the fairchild are great compressors, but they are not interchaingable)
By the time they know what they need to to produce a good product, they will be as old and grouchy as I am. (something you might just want to avoid :) )
 
"Need a stereo pair of SDCs."

The Nady DMK7 is a set of 7 drum mics. 1 Kick, 4 snare/toms and 2 SDC's

"monitors?"
I've got a set of headers that I'll use fo the mixing for now but I will save for some good monitors.

"For that amount of money, you could go to a good mid-line studio and do a whole album"
Sorry, my original post wasn't overly clear. When I said "the band" I ment whatever band I happen to be recording. See I'm going to start a recording studio as a small business.
Remember also that I'm from Australia and AU$3000 is something like US$2100. and for some reason by the time things get here they cost twice as much, even if you convert the prics to $SU.
eg. A marshall MXL V67g over here is roughly US$350 :eek:

Whan I said I'd 'bounce' the drums I meant save the 7 real tracks to 7 virtual tracks that can be assigned to the faders later when I do the complete mix. I can only record 8 track at once with the Korg D16 but I can playback 16. I don't think that that should be called bouncing but that's what they call it on a web site that did a review of it.
 
Honestly I'm really down on that Korg. All the Roland and Korg recorders are pretty duff, with cheap sliders that break easily, mediocre sound quality, and so forth. I'm much more inclined to point you in the direction of better equipment that you can grow with.

One thing I believe you underestimate is the number of simultaneous recording inputs you will need to do professional audio. When I record drums I use anywhere from 12-16 tracks OR MORE. When you start talking about adding guitar overdubs, vocals and so on the track count quickly gets to be over 35 for a basic drums/guitar/bass/vocals type song.
 
Cloneboy is right. If you are going to do this seriously, you have to look for things that can grow with you. If you go with a computer-based system, you can have a lot more than 16 tracks at mixdown, and editing capabilities. As your business grows, you can add on to it. When you out grow the Korg, you have to dump it and get something bigger. (in one big trasaction) and you have the learning curve to go through when you pick up the new hardware.
 
Enchilada said:
"Need a stereo pair of SDCs."

The Nady DMK7 is a set of 7 drum mics. 1 Kick, 4 snare/toms and 2 SDC's
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Sorry, I didn't investigate. :)
 
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