beren3001
Singer/Songwriter
it sounds like a fun project to me. im considering doing something with my brother who is in england. lucky for me i know him pretty well so it shouldnt be too stressful when we disagree. ill just yell at him lol
Roel
That SMART guy.
Go here and vote!!!
Check out the collaborations in the mp3 clinic. Lt Bob with black sabbath (euh... well, not the band...), Lt Bob with Crawdad, and more!!! These are the 2 I listened to, and they are awesome...
Alot of people will cooperate too...
Don't try to dictate in a collaboration, btw... It's stressing if you do. Just enjoy the different perspective in yer songs...
Check out the collaborations in the mp3 clinic. Lt Bob with black sabbath (euh... well, not the band...), Lt Bob with Crawdad, and more!!! These are the 2 I listened to, and they are awesome...
Alot of people will cooperate too...
Don't try to dictate in a collaboration, btw... It's stressing if you do. Just enjoy the different perspective in yer songs...
badgas
New member
I think Collaboration is the best thing going for musicians and home recording enthusists.
I haven't done any yet as I'm just now getting a handle on this Sonar Software and am recording, or I should say, re-recording the songs I've already recorded.
I was over at another site earlier and read the lyrics of someone who wants some music.
I've never worked on someone's lyrics before. But his lyrics felt very comfortable to me, so I'm going to devote some time to his lyrics and expand now that I understand this Sonar recording crap.
I don't know if voting would influence Dragon or not. If he were interested, he'd already have a collab forum.
He knows the interest here, he knows a lot of guys/gals go to NoWhere, Collaboration Central and MP3 to find people.
Oh well. Anyway, I've heard some really great music from collaboration between people who never see each other. It's something I think that is really going to grow. I go to about twenty sites that do it. There are more coming online every day.
Sure, beren, go for it. I think breaking the ice would be the hardest part for me. But it'll be fun.
Yeah, even pricks like fun.
I haven't done any yet as I'm just now getting a handle on this Sonar Software and am recording, or I should say, re-recording the songs I've already recorded.
I was over at another site earlier and read the lyrics of someone who wants some music.
I've never worked on someone's lyrics before. But his lyrics felt very comfortable to me, so I'm going to devote some time to his lyrics and expand now that I understand this Sonar recording crap.
I don't know if voting would influence Dragon or not. If he were interested, he'd already have a collab forum.
He knows the interest here, he knows a lot of guys/gals go to NoWhere, Collaboration Central and MP3 to find people.
Oh well. Anyway, I've heard some really great music from collaboration between people who never see each other. It's something I think that is really going to grow. I go to about twenty sites that do it. There are more coming online every day.
Sure, beren, go for it. I think breaking the ice would be the hardest part for me. But it'll be fun.
Yeah, even pricks like fun.
P
Peter D
New member
For me collaborating has been a contrast of extremes. I collaborate often because my lyric output greatly exceeds my composing skills, and I'm at heart a lyricist anyway. My first experience at co-writing was 26 years ago and was great. The person I worked with was a good singer, guitarist, and pianist, and most importantly, we shared a common musical vision about what we wanted to do. Unfortunately, he got married to a woman who wanted a little more security in life than songwriting.
Since then my experiences have been hit and miss; some worthwhile and some a complete waste of time and effort. One thing I have found is that no matter how sincere and dedicated one may swear to be on a bulletin board, the internet is a shaky place to form co-writing partnerships. I work a lot with young writers who are usually more singers/musicians than writers and who are looking for material to perform and get some kind of foothold in the local or regional market. Sometimes it's a one-shot deal, but there are a few who use my songs or lyrics regularly.
Co-writing is by far one of the hardest kinds of relationships to maintain other than marital and/or romantic. And like love and marriage, it's great when it works and disaster when it doesn't.
Since then my experiences have been hit and miss; some worthwhile and some a complete waste of time and effort. One thing I have found is that no matter how sincere and dedicated one may swear to be on a bulletin board, the internet is a shaky place to form co-writing partnerships. I work a lot with young writers who are usually more singers/musicians than writers and who are looking for material to perform and get some kind of foothold in the local or regional market. Sometimes it's a one-shot deal, but there are a few who use my songs or lyrics regularly.
Co-writing is by far one of the hardest kinds of relationships to maintain other than marital and/or romantic. And like love and marriage, it's great when it works and disaster when it doesn't.
T
theron
New member
collabaroration has been around since the first song of man. The possibility of collabs on the net is another thing. It is harder due to the distance and lack of personal tie with the parties involved. This includes personality flair ups and enthusiam before compatability. These things are more amplified but, the result of a happy product tends to be more rewarding in a curving ratio of unfamiliarity(due to the plastic nature of the net). So, when you do hook up with a dude you think you like and it all comes together and a nice piece of work falls out of the effort it is almost more rewarding on account of the higher odds of success.
This could be all bullshit but, it is a gut responce and my gut has betrayed me before.
Theron
This could be all bullshit but, it is a gut responce and my gut has betrayed me before.
Theron
badgas
New member
Well, I did vote. I was just in a prickish mood when I posted up there.
Yeah, I agree, collaborationhad been around for a long time.
But, when it is used around here, I think it's ment as use over the internet.
When I get a few songs of my own recorded I'm going to give it a whirl. Sound like fun.
Yeah, I agree, collaborationhad been around for a long time.
But, when it is used around here, I think it's ment as use over the internet.
When I get a few songs of my own recorded I'm going to give it a whirl. Sound like fun.
M
mikeh
New member
Much like Peter D I have found collaboration to be hit or miss. The key to collaboration is that each party bring something to the table (so it is not too one sided). A lyric person needs a musician -a guitar player needs a keyboard player, etc.)
I must admit the most success I've had as a writer came as a result of a collaboration - mainly becauase the lyricist I was working with was tenacious and once we had a good product he pounded on doors and networked like crazy until we were published and placed. But, there have been some completely wasted co-writing effeorts as well.
As has already been said, the key is that no one can try to command the team, if one person thinks all his/her ideas are the best it losses the shared momentum. Also, you need to be thick skinned - if your co-writer says, that doen't work you often need to accept and differ. Lets, face it, non of us is good at everything -sometimes that other person brings just the right thing to the mix.
I must admit the most success I've had as a writer came as a result of a collaboration - mainly becauase the lyricist I was working with was tenacious and once we had a good product he pounded on doors and networked like crazy until we were published and placed. But, there have been some completely wasted co-writing effeorts as well.
As has already been said, the key is that no one can try to command the team, if one person thinks all his/her ideas are the best it losses the shared momentum. Also, you need to be thick skinned - if your co-writer says, that doen't work you often need to accept and differ. Lets, face it, non of us is good at everything -sometimes that other person brings just the right thing to the mix.
G
gascap
New member
Hey All!
Great topic.
I recently finished adding violin tracks to a project via the internet. It was really fun. The writer for the tune lives in Chicago (I'm in Kansas). Currently I'm doing tracks for a writer in Germany. I'm not sure how much "collaboration" is going on - in terms of modifying the lyrics or structure of the song - but it's very cool to download a MP3, import it into Sonar, and get busy.
I'm actually thinking about marketing this type of cyber-string tracking.....any thoughts on such a service?
Collaboration Central is a good place to check out. There seems to be a good stable of writers/players who frequent the site.
http://www.artistcollaboration.com
Have a great day!
Great topic.
I recently finished adding violin tracks to a project via the internet. It was really fun. The writer for the tune lives in Chicago (I'm in Kansas). Currently I'm doing tracks for a writer in Germany. I'm not sure how much "collaboration" is going on - in terms of modifying the lyrics or structure of the song - but it's very cool to download a MP3, import it into Sonar, and get busy.
I'm actually thinking about marketing this type of cyber-string tracking.....any thoughts on such a service?
Collaboration Central is a good place to check out. There seems to be a good stable of writers/players who frequent the site.
http://www.artistcollaboration.com
Have a great day!