What do you guys think about Celeron?

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I'm think of building my own computer using a Celeron 2.70 Ghz processor. I plan on running GigaStudio 3 Solo with it as well as doing audio recording. I've been using a Celeron with 600 Mhz for the past 3 years, I've never really experienced any problems with it. I've heard that its not good for audio though. A few years ago, I heard the same thing about the AMD, but now they are concidered very audio worthy. Celerons are cheap about $89 for a 2.70 Ghz CPU, AMD are just as expensive as Pentiums, which in my case is bad since I'm short on money. I just thought that since Celerons were made by Intel they would put out good performance. What do you guys think about it?
 
dude if you're only gonna spend $90 on a processor, go with an AMD board.

You can get a 2600 XP with a Barton Core, running at 333 FSB with a 512 L2 Cache. That thing will DESTROY that celery for recording. It's also the RETAIL version so it's got all the warranties, fans, and good stuff.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-418&depa=1

$90!!

And just to make myself clear, I'm not some AMD Fanboy by any means. My next computer is actually going to be Intel based.

Edit: Found the 2600 XP for only $10 more than the 2500 XP.
 
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Completely agree with the above.

Athlons and P4s all the way. The current iteration of the Celeron just isn't worth the money. They just don't provide the power for the amount that you're spending.

(The old Celerons, like the one you're using, were basically truncated P2s and P3s, and performed quite admirably. Some of the later P3 based Celerons, like my 1.2 gig, which is still chugging along, performed quite well. Overclocked to 1.7, this thing has computation power that kicked my old P4 1.6's ass!)
 
i had a 950 mhz duron before i bought the 1.7 ghz celeron....its still moving nicely p4s or the athlon xps would be better but the celeron is affordable and productive
 
I think that the reasons why the AMD and Pentium is chosen over the Celeron is because the Celeron has only 128k of catch. From what I understand the others simply run faster because they have more.

Thanks for the help.
 
It's also the floating point calculations, which are HEAVILY used in audio processing...a way slower Pentium/Athlon will smoke a Duron/Celeron.
 
my duron isn't bad, i got it for 40 bucks and that included the mobo too. rite now it's running at 2.3 Ghz and i got floating points of 21K, around the floating point of a P4 2.6ghz. so if u are on a tight budget u can get a duron, it's performance is within 10% of the AMD XP, cache in AMD isn't as big of a deal as it is in intel chips. mine is OEM though, no fans, and only 1 year warranty, but oh well it's pretty cheap.
 
yeah i took my system fan off and i notice a big difference...i know this dosnt have much to do with your post warlock but i was a difference....however i turned my condensor mic up some more and i was able to hear the room including the processor fan....note to self...clean out closet and use it as vocal booth
 
One Word: Don't!

I have a laptop from work with a 2.7 Celery or something like that. I loaded Cubase SX on it just to see what it would do. I unistalled Cubase from it the next day.
 
Don't get a celeron. They work fine for every day things, but you're doing audio processing. You will get better performance from a 'slower' Athlon than the celeron for the same price.
 
Yep, and another thing I failed to mention that many people don't understand is that Ghz is NOT everything. the Athlon 2600 XP which runs at a measley 1.9 Ghz slaughters the 2.7 Ghz Celery for the reasons stated by other members above.
 
my celeron works just fine....i dont put a ton of bells and whistles on each track that would make it slow down. if i did plan on using a bunch of plugins and what not then i would probably buy something better but its doing its job and its not pissing me off.
 
A celeron would do the job OK, but what's the point of buying a Celeron at $90 when you could get something MUCH better for the same EXACT price?

It's like, yeah, a Yugo would do the job just fine getting you from point A to point B, but if you had the option of buying a Yugo for $15,000 or a pretty nice Honda for the same exact price, you'd probably go for the Honda right?
 
Wanna budget bad-ass? AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Mobile. $77, with an 80mm fan ~$25. Then get a Abit NF7 mainboard for it $75. (you have to have a mainboard that can adjust multipliers in the bios) Then get (2) 256 MB quality PC3200-3500 memory modules. $65 each. Then add the other stuff you planned on buying.

You set the voltage to 1.7v or 1.725v, the multiplier to 12.5 and the FSB to 190 MHz. Tada. Athlon XP running at 2375 Hz stable. That should be in P4 3.2 GHz territory or beyond, and you're probably spending less money than you would for that Celery 2.7. Cheap way to have a very bad-ass computer. It actually can clock faster but I think this is a totally safe setup that will work with just about any setup.
 
distorted rumble: well, Celeron is to a Athlon XP what a Yugo is to a nice Honda. Paying $90 for a Celeron instead of paying $90 for an Athlon XP 2600 would be the same thing as going, "man, I really would rather have that Yugo for $15000 instead of that nice Honda."

:)
 
I've got a PIII-based Celeron 1.3Ghz notebook that does surprisingly well for audio, but for that price range, I'd go AMD. My Athlon 2500+ OC'd to 3200+ is amazing, and it's an $80 chip.

The newer P4-based Celerons aren't nearly as efficient as the older ones, and as such are a bit of a disappointment.
 
ALaz502 said:
distorted rumble: well, Celeron is to a Athlon XP what a Yugo is to a nice Honda. Paying $90 for a Celeron instead of paying $90 for an Athlon XP 2600 would be the same thing as going, "man, I really would rather have that Yugo for $15000 instead of that nice Honda."

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well i like my yugo due to the fact that i didnt pay for it. (old GE dvd player for a processor, memory and hard drive...fair trade) i'm getting the most out of my yugo and when it breaks down, I'll make a decision on what to buy next...well that is unless it happens to break down around a holiday where i recieve presents :)
 
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My Athlon 2500+ OC'd to 3200+ is amazing, and it's an $80 chip. QUOTE]

It is nice for the money (also my old setup) but wait till you check out the 2400+ Mobile. It easily out runs the 2500+ by 200-300 MHz running at the same voltage. Positively mind boggling considering it's less than $80. I got my 2500+ to run stable at 2100 MHz running 1.7v, and have the 2400+ mobile running 2400 MHz at the same vcore. Probably not worth the money to upgrade, but if you are building another machine or can find a buyer for your 2500+ it's worth checking out...
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I think it all bogs down to how many tracks you can record

I think it all bogs down to how many tracks you can record and play back. I did a test on my Celeron 600Mhz computer to see how many 32 bit stereo tracks I could record before the computer started becoming unstable. It turned out I could only do 11 or 12 tracks. My friend let me test his 2.6 Ghz Celeron computer and it did 11 to 12 tracks aswell. I think what is important here is not processor speed but how your hard drive can handle writting that many tracks. I also tested to see how many tracks I could playback and record. Both my computer and my friends computer managed to playback somewhere around 35 tracks (never tested it above 35), while recording 11 tracks (all tracks were 32 bit stereo). The only thing I noticed on my 600 Mhz computer was way slower at re-drawing screens and process the waves on the screen. For digital audio tracking I don't think it's a problem at all, at least for me.

For top of the line video games, video editing, anamation and cad design, I can imagine a Celeron probably wouldn't do well. I however won't be doing that so I see nothing wrong with Celeron.

Working with GigaStudio wouldn't be a problem, unlike what Tascam says somewhere on their website "Celerons should be avoided". GigaStudio works essentially the same as tracking.
 
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