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beeresin
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i dig it sometimes...i llike to ues it for vocals...
Stefan Elmblad
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I don't like it for anything... and it's designed like a mooning ass too.
Speeddemon
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get a Digitech Genesis 3. It will SMOKE your POD.
...Better sound, better effects, more tube-like sound, warp-function, digital output, larger display, more presets (48 factory, 48 user), 24bit converters, better dynamic response...
...Better sound, better effects, more tube-like sound, warp-function, digital output, larger display, more presets (48 factory, 48 user), 24bit converters, better dynamic response...
scottboyher
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why cant these companies manufacture these modules in a rack mount version... most of us are using these things for recording direct in a studio setting. who has the room for a bunch of these fucking things sitting around cuttering up our studio space.... 
The damn things arent even practical for taking to a gig...
The damn things arent even practical for taking to a gig...
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Smokepole
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I was very close to buying a pod. I bought the Sansamp PSA-1 after posting here and doing a lot of comparing. Its rack mount like the above post mentions and that is nice. The Marshall settings are very accurate but I really needed several clean tones also and that locked it up for me. Tweaking and making your own programs is simple. There is a sight I had found on Google that had untouched samples on it. They are very impressive.
Here's a tune with the solo tracks done on it if you want to check it out.
L.P. Classic through only the PSA-1. This was originally a factory B.B. King setting but I tweaked it a bit to give it my own sound.
Joe
www.nowhereradio.com/mytunes/singles
You can hit the lo-fi play button and avoid having to wait. The tone still comes through surprisingly well.
Here's a tune with the solo tracks done on it if you want to check it out.
L.P. Classic through only the PSA-1. This was originally a factory B.B. King setting but I tweaked it a bit to give it my own sound.
Joe
www.nowhereradio.com/mytunes/singles
You can hit the lo-fi play button and avoid having to wait. The tone still comes through surprisingly well.
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SCLlama
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scottboyher said:why cant these companies manufacture these modules in a rack mount version... most of us are using these things for recording direct in a studio setting. who has the room for a bunch of these fucking things sitting around cuttering up our studio space....
AMEN!!!
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Andrew123
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scottboyher said:why cant these companies manufacture these modules in a rack mount version... most of us are using these things for recording direct in a studio setting. who has the room for a bunch of these fucking things sitting around cuttering up our studio space....
http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/WNAMM00/Line_6/POD-Pro.html
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SCLlama
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Andrew123 said:
Yes, but its twice as much money for the same sounds, right?
-Ryan
A1A2
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from my experience...
it will give you just about any sound you want, BUT with a half-ass job or sometimes better, depends on the tone you are after. I own a POD pro for a lil over a yr now. Who knows, maybe it's my guittar or maybe it's my half-ass skill on that baby. but, I do find it useful in most cases.
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it will give you just about any sound you want, BUT with a half-ass job or sometimes better, depends on the tone you are after. I own a POD pro for a lil over a yr now. Who knows, maybe it's my guittar or maybe it's my half-ass skill on that baby. but, I do find it useful in most cases.
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crawdad
Dammit, Jim, Shut Up!
My modeler of choice is also the Genesis3. This is only my opinion (and I can't stress this enough--I do NOT want to get into a shouting match over these things)--but I've had a Pod, a J-Station, a Boss GT3 and a Behringer V-Amp. By far, the Genesis3 was the most usable. The GT3 is pretty cool too.
I would rate the Genesis 3 much higher than the Pod, and its a better deal too. Still, you should check them all out and see what sounds best to you and which one has the sounds you are looking to use. Everything has its strengths, including the Pod.
I would rate the Genesis 3 much higher than the Pod, and its a better deal too. Still, you should check them all out and see what sounds best to you and which one has the sounds you are looking to use. Everything has its strengths, including the Pod.
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bostonfan2
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does the genesis 3 generate less noise than the pod? my pod for clean sounds
has to much hiss to be usable in quiet
parts of songs although i do like the tone. it seems with digi out it would be quieter compared to a regular pod..
anyone compare?...Bostonfan2
has to much hiss to be usable in quiet
parts of songs although i do like the tone. it seems with digi out it would be quieter compared to a regular pod..
anyone compare?...Bostonfan2
Speeddemon
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Yes, Genesis 3 is more silent. Especially when you don't play guitar... 
Like Crawdad I tested a whole bunch (owned a Boss GT-3 and a Zoom 3000S), tried the POD, J-Station, V-amp2, GNX1 and some modeller-amps (Line6 Flextone 2=sucks! H&K ZenAmp=rules!).
Anyway, after I gave up on my Boss GT-3, due to digital distortion, bad dynamics and cheesy sounds (although I made a couple of very convincing tube-like presets for tones like Dire Straits, Deep Purple, AC/DC and Europe/Dokken), I went with the Genesis 3 and never regretted it.
But yeah, they should make a super-modeler with a user-interface like the Genesis 3, only rackmounted, a better and bigger display, lots of I/O options (XLR, AES/EBU, S/PDIF, USB, etc.) about 100 factory presets and 100 or 200 user presets, maybe a cool retro look with an analog VU-meter...
Like Crawdad I tested a whole bunch (owned a Boss GT-3 and a Zoom 3000S), tried the POD, J-Station, V-amp2, GNX1 and some modeller-amps (Line6 Flextone 2=sucks! H&K ZenAmp=rules!).
Anyway, after I gave up on my Boss GT-3, due to digital distortion, bad dynamics and cheesy sounds (although I made a couple of very convincing tube-like presets for tones like Dire Straits, Deep Purple, AC/DC and Europe/Dokken), I went with the Genesis 3 and never regretted it.
But yeah, they should make a super-modeler with a user-interface like the Genesis 3, only rackmounted, a better and bigger display, lots of I/O options (XLR, AES/EBU, S/PDIF, USB, etc.) about 100 factory presets and 100 or 200 user presets, maybe a cool retro look with an analog VU-meter...
ChuckU
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I went with the J-Station because...
1. For bass DI, there were a couple of amp models.
2. Digital out instantly gave the spdif-in on my Delta-1010 usability.
3. Made by Harmon (who also makes the Genesis3) and who, when the EPROM on my RP-5 shit the bed, mailed me a replacement free.....three years after I bought it.
I find the Rectifier and Solo settings very usable because, well, I can play.
1. For bass DI, there were a couple of amp models.
2. Digital out instantly gave the spdif-in on my Delta-1010 usability.
3. Made by Harmon (who also makes the Genesis3) and who, when the EPROM on my RP-5 shit the bed, mailed me a replacement free.....three years after I bought it.
I find the Rectifier and Solo settings very usable because, well, I can play.
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Dick Flansen
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PODs are pretty great, in general. IF I had my choice of a nice miked amp in a nice room, I'd pick that over the pod. Most people DON'T have that, ergo, the POD is a no-brainer.
Although, I've gotta say that the Behringer V-Amp sounds every bit as good as the pod, for roughly a third of the price. Get the V-Amp. I have the J-Station, too - glad I have it, different sounds than the pod/v-amp... But, to me the pod and v-amp are nearly identical and have a slight edge of the j-station in terms of flexibility.
Although, I've gotta say that the Behringer V-Amp sounds every bit as good as the pod, for roughly a third of the price. Get the V-Amp. I have the J-Station, too - glad I have it, different sounds than the pod/v-amp... But, to me the pod and v-amp are nearly identical and have a slight edge of the j-station in terms of flexibility.
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jslator
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Speeddemon said:
Now there's something you don't hear very often: "How can I sound more like Europe/Dokken?" Must be a Sweedish thing.
TexRoadkill
Audio Bum
jslator said:Now there's something you don't hear very often: "How can I sound more like Europe/Dokken?" Must be a Sweedish thing.
Shhhhhh, they haven't realized the 80's are over yet. You never want to wake up a sleepwalker.
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charger
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Warning! Opinions Inside!
I love the Pod! It's the greatest thing ever! It kicks ass! It slices my bread! It makes weird sounds when I kick it! It feeds my dog and my wife when I'm out of town!
Actually, I used to use my original Pod a lot, but now I use my Pod xt, and it kicks ass on everything except for the Golden Obvious (amp > speaker > mic). Note that the Pod xt costs $350, which is way over your budget if you want to only spend $150.
I have some samples up at:
www.astrondelta.com/charger/podxt
I've also used the J-Station, and man that thing has a lot of gain! I mean, the "crunch" setting is more gain than anyone would ever need to record, and then they have another setting that has even more gain! I think for $150 it's a great deal, if that's all you can afford.
I've tried the Digitech "GNX/Genesis" units a few times now and remain unimpressed. I was a loyal Digitech user for about 6 years, and I think they missed the boat with their speaker modeling or something--great clean sounds, great effects, horrid distortion sounds that sound like they're going direct into the board. Yeah, I know Johnson is a division of Harman, which owns Digitech, blah blah...
The Behringer V-Amp sounds like the Pod because... well, they modelled the Pod sounds. It's a decent box, though a lot of people (myself included) find it way too hissy for critical recording use. I like the lights on the rotary encoders though. For that price, spend an extra 10 bucks and get the J-Station.
I love the Pod! It's the greatest thing ever! It kicks ass! It slices my bread! It makes weird sounds when I kick it! It feeds my dog and my wife when I'm out of town!
Actually, I used to use my original Pod a lot, but now I use my Pod xt, and it kicks ass on everything except for the Golden Obvious (amp > speaker > mic). Note that the Pod xt costs $350, which is way over your budget if you want to only spend $150.
I have some samples up at:
www.astrondelta.com/charger/podxt
I've also used the J-Station, and man that thing has a lot of gain! I mean, the "crunch" setting is more gain than anyone would ever need to record, and then they have another setting that has even more gain! I think for $150 it's a great deal, if that's all you can afford.
I've tried the Digitech "GNX/Genesis" units a few times now and remain unimpressed. I was a loyal Digitech user for about 6 years, and I think they missed the boat with their speaker modeling or something--great clean sounds, great effects, horrid distortion sounds that sound like they're going direct into the board. Yeah, I know Johnson is a division of Harman, which owns Digitech, blah blah...
The Behringer V-Amp sounds like the Pod because... well, they modelled the Pod sounds. It's a decent box, though a lot of people (myself included) find it way too hissy for critical recording use. I like the lights on the rotary encoders though. For that price, spend an extra 10 bucks and get the J-Station.
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dudleys100
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I have never used a modeller that I liked enough to actually use on a finnished product. I do like them for practicing however. I owned a V-amp 2 and personally I liked it better than any of the POD's I had tried. I have never tried the sansamp stuff though and I hear they are much more realistic sounding. I think I just have a terrible sensitivity to digital sounds. I am the same way with effects. I just have a real hard time with a multi effects processor getting the tone I like. Now plop a Hellhound in front of me with a tubescreamer and maybe an analog delay and let me touch heaven. 
Speeddemon
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JSlator and Tex, the sound I was referring to was more of a general heavy metal sound, but I made the patch in order to mimic "Final Countdown's" guitarsolo. I was giggin with a reasonably known dutch singer (Bert Heerink; Kayak and Vandenberg) and we did his Heineken-commercial songs... those commercials use known songs, but with dutch lyrics that are related to Heineken and/or summer/beer. We played The Final Countdown (FWIW, I nailed the solo and Bert himself came to me afterwards, applauding my skills ), but it turned out that that solo-patch (consisted of a Soldano pre-amp with lots and lots of mids, a dash reverb and delay, some slight chorus...) was very allround for both rhythm and lead work. Yes, it DID sound a bit dated, but you could basically play anything from Sabbath to Bon Jovi, via Metallica with that sound. That patch alone was basically worth keeping the GT-3, but I really got tired from some high-pitched digital distortion. Bruce, if you read this, this unit DOES sound digital! 
I know "digital' isn't supposed to have some signature sound, but if you're pretty anal about your tone (as most (semi-)pro guitarplayers are), you'll notice some deficiencies within the GT-3.
I know the 80's are over, I just wanna bring 'em back, and my army to do so is growing as we speak! People are really getting fed up with nu metal.
As a better example, two of the more famous metalbands from this decade (Nightwish and Children of Bodom) both use quite an 80's guitar sound, and I must admit that Emppu (Nightwish's guitarplayer) has an AWESOME tone. If you like metal at all, I suggest you listen to some Nightwish songs. It's a blend of sympho, powermetal and gothic heavy metal. Opera female voice and lots of synths.
), but it turned out that that solo-patch (consisted of a Soldano pre-amp with lots and lots of mids, a dash reverb and delay, some slight chorus...) was very allround for both rhythm and lead work. Yes, it DID sound a bit dated, but you could basically play anything from Sabbath to Bon Jovi, via Metallica with that sound. That patch alone was basically worth keeping the GT-3, but I really got tired from some high-pitched digital distortion. Bruce, if you read this, this unit DOES sound digital! I know "digital' isn't supposed to have some signature sound, but if you're pretty anal about your tone (as most (semi-)pro guitarplayers are), you'll notice some deficiencies within the GT-3.I know the 80's are over, I just wanna bring 'em back, and my army to do so is growing as we speak!
People are really getting fed up with nu metal.As a better example, two of the more famous metalbands from this decade (Nightwish and Children of Bodom) both use quite an 80's guitar sound, and I must admit that Emppu (Nightwish's guitarplayer) has an AWESOME tone. If you like metal at all, I suggest you listen to some Nightwish songs. It's a blend of sympho, powermetal and gothic heavy metal. Opera female voice and lots of synths.
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littledog
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Every time I've had anyone use the Pod at my studio I've had serious noise issues. Unless the whole track was thrashing so that it got buried, I've almost always had to use my DNR noise reduction to get an acceptable result when mixing. I will admit the possibility that perhaps the guitarists were giving me ass for gain structure.
However, someone came in last week with a Digitech floor unit (didn't note the exact model number) that was, by comparison, amazingly quiet.
However, someone came in last week with a Digitech floor unit (didn't note the exact model number) that was, by comparison, amazingly quiet.
