What are the pro's and con's about the Vs2000

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So...... everybody keeps saying the pre-amps suck.....


If I buy an external pre-amp, and turn my pre's on the VS-2000 all the way down to LINE.... won't I mostly be by passing them ?

Will that help ?

(I have ordered a tube pre to use with the VS2000)
 
Yes, Matt, it will help, if the preamp is any good (the tube pre isn't so hot either). Remember that the Roland is a $2000 box, and even fair pres start at about $500 per channel. Really good ones are more like $1000 per channel. What will help more is to go in by S/PDIF, 2 tracks at a time, and bypass the preamps completely. There are 3 ways to do this. One- Get a preamp with S/PDIF out, using its own convertor. I use a Joemeek twinQ for that. MAudio Tampa will work. Two- (the best way, but not the cheap way)- Get a much better convertor, such as Lucid AD2496, and plug whatever preamp you have into that, and go to the Roland by S/PDIF. That bypasses the preamps *and* upgrades the convertor. Three (the cheap way)- Buy a TC Electronics M300, plug your preamp into that, press the "bypass" button, and send S/PDIF out to the Roland from the M300. The M300 is a rather useful $200 FX box that will give you an outboard reverb, delay, rudimentary compressor, flanger, de-esser, and makeup gain. It is not a great A-D convertor, but it is about as good as the one in the Roland. So you don't lose much, if anything, in the convertor, but it allows you to bypass the Roland's pres completely. Downside to all of those techniques- You can only go into the Roland's S/PDIF with 2 tracks at a time. For more than 2, plug whatever pres you have into the channel ins and set them for "line", as you say. That won't completely bypass the Roland's pres, but the more gain you get out of those pres, the worse they get. For drums, send the overheads in by S/PDIF, and the rest as line ins. "The rest" should be as few tracks as possible- namely kick and snare.
I made an entire commercial CD that way, and it will work. A whole bunch of that album was done with an Avalon AD2022 going into an M300, and then to the Roland by S/PDIF. The more you can get around the Roland's pres, the better it will sound. I recorded en entire album on a VS1824CD, and at no time were the preamps ever turned up from "line". The only stuff that ever went through the line ins was kick and snare. It was a pain in the ass, but it worked. -Richie
 
Mines should be here Friday or Saturday. I got mines for 1175 and it has the VGA option and mouse option. So im pretty sure i got a good deal. I cant wait till it gets here. Also it has all original stuff i got it off of Ebay.
 
Hey, all -- good thread here. I'm considering the VS2000, but see that Roland has a free monitor rebate for the 2400 through June, so...

1. Has anyone gotten this free monitor? Is it any good?

2. How is the quality of the onboard drum machine? Does anyone have a sound clip of this at work?

Thanks,
G
 
The DM sound quality is acceptable, albeit not great. It is also not as simple to program as a dedicated DM.

Roland has had the monitor deal for at least a year now. They used to have it on the 2000CD, although that might be changing if they're blowing them out the door at $1,500.00, now.
 
Man!!!

I remember when i started this thread, i was just starting out wanting this machine. Now look at it!!

Well just to settle any nay sayers im happy with my vs2000, it does everything i want it to and thats stock!!

Im not dumb so don't for one second try and tell me that its the pre's or the converters or this or that, if you learn your machine your sound will come out the way you want it to period (clearer is not always better, can ya'll say lifeless recordings)

i've been to plenty of studio's where i was complemented on my tracking using my workstation and i've had plenty of music played on local and international radio so quality is not a problem with me.

All im saying is that if you get a vs2000 or anything else learn how to use it to its full potential before bashing it or changing it because of what you heard, do what you came here to learn how to do and hear for yourself!
 
My experience with the Roland Vs-2000

my experience has been great. but it took me a long time to get anything sounding close to good or clear. especially when micing my drum set...

here are a few sample recordings everyone can listen to to see what i have produced so far with the Roland Vs-2000.

Note: Please do not compare to Jeff's AMAZING RECORDINGS! haha

From my Old Band (TRY to ignore the awful vox...focus on instrumental sounds):
http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=3378


From my new band:
www.myspace.com/theglasshourband

*all these songs i did with the Roland Vs-2000. Hope you enjoy and see what i've done with this machine.
 
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