What are nice good accurate monitors?

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Right now, I'm actually using NS10'S. There okay but I don't believe they are accurate, what I hear in my studio is different from what I play in the car. Any suggestions would be helpful thanks!!! OH yeah, what about EVENTS?
 
Of course your monitors are going to sound different than your car stereo! You have to learn how your monitors translates to other systems. I've never heard the NS10's but I'm sure it's possible to get a good mix from them, you just have to learn their sound (and that is not as easy as it sounds).

I don't know if the NS10's are the most accurate monitor. From what I've heard they're far from flat, but many engineers rely on them everyday.

My suggestion is that you take a number of your favorite CD's and play them trough your NS10's and try to lear their sound.

Hope this helps!

Simon
 
Swede said:
Of course your monitors are going to sound different than your car stereo!
I hope so! If the subject is accuracy, why are we even considering the car? If you're mixing JUST for the car, make sure you make the right channel louder than the left, so the driver gets the best possible sound. :D

I just had a vision of pulling my '95 honda into my studio, hooking the computer up to the battery, and putting the monitor on the passenger seat. I suppose we can tear out the dash, and put in a mixing console, but I'm not sure how that's going to affect my mileage.
 
For the record, I agree with Swede. Choose a few well-recorded CDs and really get to know your system. (You'll find a nice list on p. 256 of Home Recording for Dummies--Steely Dan's Two Against Nature is one example, but choose music similar to your own, of course.) I know plenty of home engineers who've learned, really learned, the sound of their cheapo monitors, and they're then able to produce quality mixes for any system. Great monitors can only help, but like most things in home recording, nothing matters more than the engineer's knowledge and skill while working with the equipment available. For that matter, I've heard a few cassette portastudio recordings that blow sime digital daw recordings out of the ballpark. Knowledge is a good thing.

Good luck,

J.
 
If I listen to a few of my favorite cd's on my studio monitors? what should I listen for, what things? Vocals? Bass? what else? Thanks to all that gave tips...I appreciate it!!
 
Yo "Da" Sun:

Before Blue Bear tells you, you should look at the Yorkville YSM monitors. You can go active or passive.

I use the passives -- very good product for the money.

For sure there are better and more expensive monitors out there; however, for most recording folks, the Yorks will do a great job.

Try to audition a pair.

Green Hornet :D :p :cool:
 
the NS10's are pretty damn accurate...too accurate for me......

Da, listen to all those things you mentioned.....then when you are mixing the drums, go back to your reference CD and listen to the drums....when you are mixing guitars, go back and reference the guitars......etc etc.....

stay with the NS10's.....
 
Da, IMHO, mixing is a bear, often taking much more time than my actual recording. I don't like this fact, but that's the way it is for me. I agree with the above. When I'm mixing guitars, I try to match the guitar CDs I've worn out from past listens, and the same for mixing drums and bass and so forth. In a nutshell, try doing what many of us do (or, like me, are at least trying to do):
try to emulate the overall sound of CDs that you know and like
while played through your recording system. If your own product sounds similar in EQ, compression, pans, and volume levels, for example, then you'll probably be happy with the results. It's not an exact science, but it's a good place to start. Later, once you've accomplished this, you can try to carve your own way by using some unique, creative approaches that might even sound better than the pro CDs you know and like. But first, get to know your system and how to duplicate the sound of others you like.

Just am approach that wiser others have taught me.

Good luck,

J.
 
NS10s are keepers, and AJA is the steely dan disc you need to use to get the sound.

They actually have a midrange hump of sorts that makes that undesireable frequency stand out. and in the end your mixes sound better on anything else you try.
 
There are endelss amounts of posts of this subject. You might want to use the search.

Many hate the NS10's. Just so you know.

And before anybody should even attempt to answer a question like this, they should ask:

What's your budget, my friend? :D
 
Yea what regebro said.

And a lot of the long time vets swear by the NS10's and get great results, but if you're just starting out and you don't have a history with them, avoid them like the plague.

Get some Yorkies or something along those lines.
 
Here's my two cents. When you decide to record your music, the two most important things in your studio must be your tranducers; your microphones and your monitors. Your microphones have to be the "very best" you can get your hands on (which might be subjective) because you want to reproduce whatever it is that your picking up as "faithfully" and "realistically" as possible without enhancing anything. Your monitors, on the other hand, should be as good as you can so that you can be able to hear the "truth"; you want to hear the exact frequencies, as clearly as possible so you know exactly what was recorded and how to blend (mix) all those priceless takes together to make your final product as enjoyable and exciting as you can. Now, listening to your mix in the car is good. I remember hearing from a few very good engineers that the car is a very good place to check on mixes... but remember that not all car systems sound alike, and that the speakers in your car are not meant to be flat, so , just as an example, an ultra deep bass that sounds wicked in your JBL's, Alesis, Roland's or Tannoy's might distort or sound strange in your car's kenwood's or Pioneers. So you might have to adjust to be able to be happy with that deep bass sound in both set-ups, or even try a small boom box as well. Keep in mind always that 99% of the people that will get a hold of your mix will play it in systems that do not sound flat and 4 out of 5 will play it in a lousy soundind cheap-o stereo. So what sounds awesome in your studio monitors might not come through so well in cheap-o stereos. What I do, is I have two sets of monitors in the studio. I have Roland DS-90's as my "main" set and when I'm happy with a mix and think there is little or nothing else to do with it, I switch the audio to a pair of Roland MA-8 stereo micro monitors which I believe are much closer sounding to what most of the people that will get a copy of my mix will use to listen to it. Generally I'll have to tweak a couple of frequencies here and there (by cutting, not boosting) after the listen of the micro monitors. Once I'm happy with the sound in both sets of monitors, he next step I take is to burn a CD with it and listen to it in three systems, first, generally I play it in a small boom box I have in the bathroom while I shower; second, I play it in my home stereo in my living room; finally in my car. Always making mental notes of what sounds good and what doesn't in the three diferent environments, and then I go and adjust a little bit more in the mix to get my FINAL MIX.

Best of luck,

Carlos
 
ambi said:
And a lot of the long time vets swear by the NS10's and get great results, but if you're just starting out and you don't have a history with them, avoid them like the plague.

Why do people say bullshit like that?

NS10's can give you an incredible amount of detail. I can listen to CD's for years in my car and then when I finally listen to them through NS10's there is a bunch of stuff in the mix I never even noticed before. Listen to an album like U2's Pop and you will clearly hear all the different layers they use in the mix that get pretty blurred on a typical system.

You can spend a few hundred and get monitors that are different or you can spend a grand and get monitors that are probably better.
 
carlosguardia said:
the two most important things in your studio must be your tranducers; your microphones and your monitors

absolutely. they are the vital link between the mechanical and electrical world.

but i disagree about one thing... the monitors must be neutral (and this is subjective, you can tune your brain to make a monitor neutral) and accurate/detailed.

BUT the mics can be full o flavor. in a sense, the better your monitoring, the more flavorful your mics can be. it is nice to have an accurate mic around for comparison, but you dont NEED it.

all things considered, i would rather have an sm57 and some genelecs than some $2000 mic and a boom box.
 
Sorry tex i probably shouldn't have said "avoid them like the plague". But they've been known to melt your brain after using them from ear fatigue.

I'm sure they have tons of detail and you can get awesome mixes, but there are other options that won't make your head explode.

But i guess i am going on a bias that has been floating around for a long time against them. Sorry about that i don't like to pass along propaganda.

I'm sure the NS10's are excellent. In my opinion, i'd get the yorkvilles for myself over them, but that's just me. Whatever works for you!
 
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