What about Pro Tools?

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Just out of curiosity.. why is it that you barely hear anyone on this board mention Pro Tools?? Yet anyone out in the music world I ever talk to seem to be using nothing but Pro Tools.. is there something I'm missing here? Anyone else ever feel like an outsider or newbie for NOT using Pro Tools? lol. I dont know.. maybe it's just me. I'm actually thinking about jumping into it but more because of the hardware compatability issues I seem to be having with my Aardvark card and my p4 w/hyperthreading tech & windows xp w/ sp2. Any opinions?? Thoughts? Suggestions?
 
Your right in that you hear a lot about ProTools, it's very true and when your a band going to professionally record you feel comfortable that your engineer is using hard/software that you hear a lot about and everyone else uses.

This is true for many other peices of gear other than ProTools.

I think that Pro Tools belongs in the Professional studios because of it's high price tag.

This is a HOMErecording bbs, many of us could never afford a true ProTool HD setup ($30,000 >). So we talk here about how to acheive the next best thing.

Good vision, tracking technique, Mics, Pres, A/D convertors, Mixing skills/equipment, and of course creativity is what we should focus on. Not an all in one system the price of a small house.
 
The Digi 002 Rack is a nice set-up, I run that and Cubase SE in my studio, I doubt that you will find anyone around here just using one application to record to
 
Yeah I was looking at the digi 002 rack or maybe the digi002 mixer.. I've seen it in someones studio and man I fell in love with that thing. Is there much of a difference between the pro tools setup in a professional studio(30k dollars) and a home studio pro tools setup? (400 - 2k dollars)
 
Carter said:
The Digi 002 Rack is a nice set-up, I run that and Cubase SE in my studio, I doubt that you will find anyone around here just using one application to record to
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Carter by the way.. what can Cubase do that Pro Tools can't? Im just curious as to why you- use both..
 
I thought that Pro Tools was avaliable in a standalone software product.

Or has this changed to them selling the whole studio setup with the software?

I remember Pro Tools Free from a while back--it was a pretty nice deal, but they didn't update it, from the Mac end at least. I think it is still avaliable for PC.
 
Pro tools is brilliant but totally over priced. It can do soo much though and its fairly straight forward. Theres actually classes you can attend that teach you how to use the tool of pros! (pro tools)
 
ProTools is definately the industry standard and will be for quite some time, so if you're looking to get into "the industry," setting yourself up with PT isn't such a bad idea.

Alexbt: nope no standalone product, you have to buy the hardware to get the software. PT Free is out there but you have to be running an old OS to use it, and who wants to do that?

I would definately go with the 002 (rack or board doesn't matter, just depends on whether or not having HW controls is worth the extra $$$) and skip the MBox. My roommate has a 002 rack and he loves it, while I've heard some bad things about the MBox ... mainly limited I/O, but I'm not sure what other differences there are. PT isn't really all that expensive anymore (for LE) ... $1600 isn't too far off of what you would pay for a similar interface and software package. But yes to step up to TDM or HD requires a much more significant investment.
 
Yeah well as far as the industry standard... that's definitely what it seems to be.. every studio I been to uses it. And I definitely want to learn it if that's what's been used by the "professionals". Plus it seems possible clients are more receptive when they hear you're running pro tools.. probably because they don't know of anything else. For me personally I just hope it will solve the issues i've been having with my computer lately.. If so I'll be a happy camper.. =0)
 
To me I would have more respect if the studio used Nuendo or Logic but that's just me. For the small project studio that has 5-10k to spend you can get a great start with a system with good converters and Nuendo compared to Pro Tools LE. Compatibility is endless with Nuendo compared to any Pro Tools gig.
 
I like and dislike Pro Tools. LE is an extremely logically setup software. If you can run a computer and an analog console, you're in. It's great for midi editing, and I really like the fact that you can automate virtually anything, all the way down to effects parameters. Most importantly, RTAS plugs that aren't available as VST's. What I don't like about it is how exclusive it is. PT software wants to only talk to PT hardware exluding a lot of compatibility across the board.
 
But at the same time it seems like that cuts down on instability between system, software & hardware. Like I said.. I'm just getting tired of the issues I've been having with my computer and I'm almost positive it has to do with my aardvark soundcard not being 100% compatible with windows. Id rather go with something thats guaranteed compatible as it seems pro tools is. From all the reading I've done I've barely seen anyone running pro tools having much system issues. Then again.. what the hell do i know.. lol
 
There are huge differences between a full blown HD rig and any Pro Tools LE setup. The first most obvious difference is price. Second, there is better DSP (HD Accell). Third there is TDM. All of those things drastically change the way Pro Tools is used and how well it operates. There is also the fact that LE systems have stricit limitations as to track count etc... If the way you work meets the limitations of Pro Tools LE, there is no reason why you couldn't use an LE system succesfully. Not to mention it is easier to transport a project form LE to HD than it is from Nuendo (which is my application of choice). The hardware limitations of Pro Tools is changing as well. You can now buy Apogee conversion for HD rigs and run them without also having to buy proprietary Digidesign hardware. A full blown HD rig is still pretty well unmatched as far as features, speed, usability, and stability goes, but other companies are making some nice headway in breaking into the professional studio environment and are quickly closing those gaps. I personally could not use an LE rig in my studio, but can't afford an HD rig without having to make some huge sacrifices that would in the end have more of a negative impact on my studio. Therefore I choose to use Nuendo which (along with Digital Performer on a mac) is really the next best thing to the professional acceptance of Pro Tools. However, if my budget were to allow me to comfortably get into Pro Tools HD without having to make too many compromises, business savvy says it would be well worth it. In this day and age, luckily, Pro Tools is not a necessity for home users. There are many viable options that are very powerful and very capable. However, at this time, there really isn't anything that can compete with Pro Tools. It's kind of like an SSL console. They are excellent desks, but there is always something nicer out there. However, not even a Neve console meets the demand, usability, acceptance, and familiarity of an SSL. probably why SSL is the console of choice for most every major studio on the market. All the tried and true engineers and producers know how to use them and what to expect.
 
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