Well, who's ready to tell me how wrong I did this? :D

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I tracked three songs for my friend's band yesterday for twelve hours straight. I came home and this morning set to working on the first one. Ummm. Let me know what you think. I'm by no means great at this, so I need all of the help I can get.

I used:

N-track
Omni Studio with Delta 66
PreSonus Bluetube Pre
Alesis M1s

Vocals: V67g
Guitar: sm57
bass: direct mixed with miced (D112)
Drums: ecm8000 ohs, sm57 snared, d112 kick


Yep, here it is:



Christopher
 
the positives are a nice stereo spread on the drums...which I like w------i-------d-------e spreads on. A little bit on the cymbals compared to the rest of the kit.

the rest of the music is kinda in a "wash" of gtr. distortion, and each instrument seems to be having a hard time carving out its own place in the mix. It seems kinda thin sounding too...and like I said, dominated by the thrashing guitar parts, which makes it tough to hear the other instruments and vocals.
 
So any suggestions or anywhere I can read about cleaning those sections up? It sound nice with just the bass and drums, but when I put the guitars in there it gets all muddy. There are two guitar parts, and I put them at 10 and 2 to try and get the a little more seperate.

Christopher
 
I wonder why your D112 isn't giving you enough booph(is that a word?) Turn it up, so I can feel the vibe :). I would love to tell you what's wrong w/ the mix, but I am no expert, however, I agree w/ mixmkr. try to leave the guitars dry since they are dominating the mix.

AL
 
Chris,
great energy going here!

Queue's de-mudding suggestions...

(unfortunately might involve some re-tracking/re-working)

listen to the solo/interlude sections where the guitars are doing different things. less mud? Yes!

things to try:

-write a different part for the 2nd guitar.
-only use both guitars fully when you want the punch, and scale back during other parts.
-get one of the guitars to use a completely different setup, clean, capo'd up into some higher frequencies, or even an acoustic guitar!
-listen to as many cd's as you can of other groups that your friend's band names (I'm hearing a little Bush?), and pick out the guitar parts, see what they're up to and do similar stuff.
-check to see if you can scale back on reverb or other settings for the guits...

Please keep in mind, I'm far from an expert... just another guy with some suggestions... use or discard them at your discretion...


Queue
 
Cool tune and a solid start on the recording:)
I'm no guru either (or even a thin neophyte) but, I'd go to the git tracks and get all the "white noise" out of them as I could. Try a gate to remove the bottom hum of the tracks, and maybe compression. The previous point of a distinct tone from each git is very valid (as I've recently learned;)wink.

You might find yourself retracking the gits and definitly giving that bass more punch (I have a terrible time with this myself and can't get it right so, don't ask me) but, from the sound of the mix, you could make big improvments with what you have.

Sorry I couldn't storm in and make it all better. Hope I helped on a chunck or two.:)

You've got a base to work with thanks to your solid original tracking and strong song.

Theron.
 
Thanks everyone for all of your help so far. It's monday, a few more people need to look at this.

Christopher
 
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