we should do a comp. cd

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bknot1 said:
what are you tryin to grasp about the .wav file?
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The fact that it is technically a data file you can alter...or rearrange within your daw. I'm just trying to apply some of that book stuff i've been readin... Work with me now... i'm actin brand new...


Demi
 
So ya'll are basically wanting to start the Hustle Magic II project?
 
we don't have to call it hustle magic part II cuz we don't wanna steal no ideas from no one but i just thought since we are always posting beats and people are always posting songs why not make a cd and make some cake off it? reek, bigwills i didn't know if ya'll would be down cuz i know u guys are busy so if u want in then squad up we can just cut time on tracks to be able to have more songs, but we deff. gonna need some artists for all these beats haha
 
DesertEase said:
should we break em down to 2 track wav. files or no? i think it would be easier for mastering if we did it that way wouldn't it? anywayz for the comp cd we should go hard and smooth like the best of both worlds type ish
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Personally I rather have them each encoded in their own wave form. What's everyone's recording rates? I can work up to 64bit float (or 24 bit in pro tools) & 96khz. Sessions probably would be around 300mb or 280mb zipped up.
 
Mindset said:
Personally I rather have them each encoded in their own wave form. What's everyone's recording rates? I can work up to 64bit float (or 24 bit in pro tools) & 96khz. Sessions probably would be around 300mb or 280mb zipped up.
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Very good question... we all need to be working in the same sample rate.. because when you bring over those wavs they don't sync up well when your running in a higher format. I just learned that lesson 2 days ago... :o) I can do 48 up to 96k


Demi
 
MP3 is going to kill your quality. For mixing and mastering purposes it should all be in wav.

My suggestion, just give Mindset what rate you're recording your wavs in and let him figure out the best method to get it done on his end.

Yeah Change it does sound like they're hungry. Let them get this out of their system and then we work on HM2.

Shit's gonna be crazy.


Fiev.
 
how many of you guys can work in at least 24 bit, 44.1khz. If some of you can't, it's not life threating, but would sound better. Also how many of you using broadband?

* 24 bit (preferred) or 16 bit
* 44.1khz up to 192khz sample rate (minimum 44.1 or 48khz preferred)
* wave (preferred), sd2, aiff, omf
* I rather not do it in mp3 because of some of the PT HD systems don't support mp3.
* name the program your using to record vocals & make beats. Some of them, I have, and can just import session and do things from there.
* Before adding any effects, processors etc, let me know.

I will most likely transfer to Pro Tools HD system, and do much of the work there or at home. Most of the mixing will be done out of the box, unless the sound (or equipment) calls for me to mix inside the box. If the instrumentals are separate waves (kick.wav, hihat.wav, leadguitar.wav etc)

BTW Make sure you label them correctly lol... PLEASE. No spaces in file names, 8 characters or less, if it needs a space use _ instead, and no special characters like !@#$%^&*()
 
so for the wavefiles do you want 1 wav. with all the drums and 1 wav. with all the instruments? cuz i read somewhere that ur supposed to send em out that way for mastering? idk i could be wrong tho i read it a while ago, i got broadband
 
DesertEase said:
so for the wavefiles do you want 1 wav. with all the drums and 1 wav. with all the instruments? cuz i read somewhere that ur supposed to send em out that way for mastering? idk i could be wrong tho i read it a while ago, i got broadband
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you send them that way for mixing...
 
kick.wav
snare.wav
hihat.wav
leadguitar.wav
bass.wav
vox verse.wav
voxadlib.wav

like that. each single wave. Easier to mixdown before mastering. Mastering only polishes the work done by the mixing engineer, and fixes any small flaws, but mastering engineers can't work miracles.
 
Mindset said:
kick.wav
snare.wav
hihat.wav
leadguitar.wav
bass.wav
vox verse.wav
voxadlib.wav

like that. each single wave. Easier to mixdown before mastering. Mastering only polishes the work done by the mixing engineer, and fixes any small flaws, but mastering engineers can't work miracles.
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Exactly.

What you're referring to Desert, is called Stem Mastering. Which is when the Mix engineer sends stems (separate groups of sounds) of instrumentation to the mastering engineer to master in unison. Some believe this yeilds a better product. I don't necessarily believe that's the case all of the time. If the mix is perfect, theres no need for it.

But yes. Every sound should have it's own dedicated wave file for mixing. And for file size purposes, if it's a mono sound, make it a mono file. A stereo file of a mono sound is a waste of HD space.
 
Ok so are we saying a left/right stereo mix so that would be (2) wav files. That would normally be enough for a mastering engineer to master. I'm getting confused...



Demi
 
dnkygirl said:
Ok so are we saying a left/right stereo mix so that would be (2) wav files. That would normally be enough for a mastering engineer to master. I'm getting confused...



Demi
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unless the mix down was not that great in the first place. Then it requires a lot more work to make it sound better. Really, I could take a song in stereo and take it up to the studio, but I won't be able to run just your vocals into a LA2A, or EQ the vocals a bit through the Neve console to give it some analog taste, or maybe I'll want to use the Fairy Dust on the SSL console or simply let it run through a Reel of tape to give it a tad of vintage. So preferably unless it's a stereo and needs to be stereo, all other instruments, vocals, vox doubles, adlibs, sound effects, should be mono wave files. If the beat itself is 16 instruments in mono, than it should be 16 wave files.
 
Mindset said:
unless the mix down was not that great in the first place. Then it requires a lot more work to make it sound better. Really, I could take a song in stereo and take it up to the studio, but I won't be able to run just your vocals into a LA2A, or EQ the vocals a bit through the Neve console to give it some analog taste, or maybe I'll want to use the Fairy Dust on the SSL console or simply let it run through a Reel of tape to give it a tad of vintage. So preferably unless it's a stereo and needs to be stereo, all other instruments, vocals, vox doubles, adlibs, sound effects, should be mono wave files. If the beat itself is 16 instruments in mono, than it should be 16 wave files.
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Exactly.

After the mixing stage takes place, the mixdown will be one stereo wav file which will then be mastered.

If Mindset is going to mix the project, I'll offer up my services for Mastering the project.
 
ahhh ok i got u got guys now thanks for the info and thanks for joinin up change
 
Ok sorry if I missed this but: Remember when yall said if there were 16 instruments we should put out 16 wav files; what about the extras involving our instruments; ala:the snare roll that leads to hook from verse, or a 4 measure change up??? Did I make that clear enough?
 
what you would do noddy is save all your instruments and patterns to individual wav. files meaning: take you drums go to the pattern and save it as a wav. send everything to mindset that way when he opens everything up he can hear the total beat when it's playin and make any necessary changes to it
 
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