Waves RVerb

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Anyone else use Waves' Renaissance Reverberator?

I've been using GlaceVerb for awhile now which is really good especially for being free.

But I sent a song of mine to a friend over the internet and he did a little EQ and then added some reverb using the Waves plugin.

It makes GlaceVerb sound like crap by comparison. :( Very realistic sounding.

I went to Waves' website and it says it's $400 for TDM and $200 for Native?

I'm not sure what the difference is? I can't afford to spend $400 on a plugin, but I can probably stretch my budget to $200. It sounds worth it.

Or maybe you can tell me another plugin that is close in comparison to Waves' but not so expensive?

Thanks.
 
i think TDM is for pro tools or something, just get the native version if anything. i've never used or heard it so i cant comment on wether or not it's worth the cost. i personally wouldn't spend that much on a reverb plug, but then again i hate using reverb anyway. :eek: :D
 
For the TDM version you would need the protools TDM compatible hardware (i.e. you cant afford it) so the native one will do.

The TDM versions run on the PT DSP hardware where the native versions use your computers clock cycles
 
I tried the Renaissance verb briefly and compared it against Sonic Timeworks ReverbX (same price range). I bought ReverbX. But I like SIR better than either for most of what I do.
 
SIR and a few downloads from noisevault.com is probably the best deal ever
 
Since I started using SIR a few years ago I've tested maybe a hundred of the convolution wav files, trying them out with different setting tweaks and on different sources. SIR really has an amazing variety in the reverb it can do, and if you get it just right it can be spectacular IMO.
 
I too like the waves RVerb, but those waves bundles are crazy expensive. The program doesn't seem to be large and extensive, where do they get off selling it for so much?
 
Can you recommend some good impulse responses for acoustic guitar? I tried some of the room spaces on noisevault and just couldn't get it to sound good...
 
honestly, for accoustic I would try some delays

make a pretend room and see how long it would take to come back from each wall, the ceiling and the floor

Eq the delays a bit for types of surfaces

This can make a WAY more intimate sound than reverb sometimes

Otherwise I would split or eq the send to reverb so that only the treblier parts of the guitar get to the reverb

The lows in there can add mud for no reason, without really imparting any sense of space
 
i'm with pipe on this one. the kjaerhus free "classic delay" plugin is very nice. you can change the tone of the delay and make it more reverby, but to me it sounds a lot cleaner than using reverb.
 
Thanks for the tip, haven't really experimented much with delay on acoustic, I'll have to give it a try.

I'll be using it mostly on fingerstyle. I don't usually put much, if any, reverb on a rhythm/strummed guitar because it sounds muddy.
 
danny.guitar said:
Can you recommend some good impulse responses for acoustic guitar? I tried some of the room spaces on noisevault and just couldn't get it to sound good...
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Here are three:

Lexicon/urs_pcm90-halls/VOC_choir hall
also ORCH_small church (maybe the best)
also ORCH_deep blue

With each, I get the best results by shortening the decay to .5-.8 second, cutting the highs over 2 kHz by a lot, and cutting the lows under 150 Hz by 6-10 dB. Bring the verb level up just enough so it takes the starkness off the ends of the notes. If you notice the verb as a ringing echo-y effect, there's too much.
 
Thanks Tim. :cool:

I'm gonna give that a try and also mess around with the delay. :)

I think I was using too much verb before, which is why it sounded bad. :o
 
yeah, with the delay on acoustic just make sure to use it lightly. you don't want to "notice" the effect really.
 
danny.guitar said:
I'll be using it mostly on fingerstyle. I don't usually put much, if any, reverb on a rhythm/strummed guitar because it sounds muddy.
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Try a longer predelay time and lowering the volume of the early reflections. This will help decrease the muddiness and make your reverb sound more realistic.
 
danny.guitar said:
I think I was using too much verb before, which is why it sounded bad. :o
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Easy to do. I've been there many times. When being used for ambiance, (rather than for a spectacular effect) less is more.

Some others to check out:

Anwida soft dx reverb light. (Free) Can be quite good.
Sonic Timeworks 4080L. Almost as good as ReverbX, cheaper, and uses less CPU.
PSP Easyverb. Demo at their site. Fits my interpretation of a "warm" reverb. Easy to use.
 
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