Wave editing for Boss BR1600

[Gorty]

I have the Boss BR1600 and have been trying to find out if I hook the Boss up to a computer is there any program or software (I am not too sure of the correct terminology when it comes to computers) that I could use to edit wave forms and frequencies.
I know that I can do this on the Boss but I would like to visualize the actual waveforms and frequencies.
I hope someone out there understands what I am after.

 

[Rickbrown74]

I have Cubasis VST which I got second hand for £15 (30 dollars?). It comes with Wavelab lite which will let you see the waveform and let you cut away at it plus apply effects if you so desire.

 

[Gorty]

Thanx Rick, I am going to give the Cubasis a go!
What are the effects available with the Cubasis?

 

[Rickbrown74]

Good question! Havent used it much so not that familiar with all the gadgets. Theres plenty of effects to do most things but the BR1600 I think sounds better for reverb and compression.

What I did was take the WAV files from the BR1600 and did whatever cutting, pasting, messing around, etc.. that needed down and then fire the wav file back into the BR1600 again for mixing.

 

[Gorty]

Thats basically what I am looking at doing. I too find the effects onboard the Boss sufficient for my recordings.
The area that I want to improve is the mastering of my recordings. I know I can do this on the Boss and have downloaded a chart giving me guidelines that show where certain frequencies for certain instruments should be sitting.
This software sounds like what I am after to visualize these frequencies in wave form.
How do you view your results using this software with the Boss? What I am asking is have you always used this editing program or did you originally just start out with the Boss Br1600 and then expanded with the Cubasis?

 

[Rickbrown74]

I've only messed around with Cubasis a few years back when I was producing drum tracks and effects for our band before we got a drummer!

The BR1600 is a recent purchase for recording the band and and retracking rough parts/adding parts etc. to produce a basic CD.

Editing is a cumbersome process of exporting the track to the computer in WAV format, changing it, and then sending it back into the BR1600. NOT QUICK to do!! Gets the job done though if you arent in a hurry.

(Does that answer ther question? )

Mastering is still the part I am not sure of. T-Racks on my PC maximises the volume well and tightens/sweetens the mix well. Havent yet compared it to the BR1600's mastering but the is a tube emulation on t-racks which seems to help matters making it warmer.

 

[Gorty]

Thanx for the correspondence Rick, Ill get myself the editing program and hook the Boss up to my PC and start dabbling.
Just a quick question seeing as you have the Boss Br1600. Have you updated the Boss with the Version 2.0 software available free from your Roland dealer?

 

[Rickbrown74]

Sorry for the slow reply. Was on a short holiday.

Yes, I have the version 2 upgrade. more presets and modelling thingys but I believe it makes transferring multiple files easier (not faster, just easier!)

Had to download Mero to burn the files into a certain format to make the upgrade work. Wasnt entirely sure what I was doing but worked first time!

 

[Gorty]

It took me forever and a day to get my upgrade from Roland, however I did get it eventually. I then was advised to back up all my song data before updating, so I got my blank CDR/W disc,s and started to backup, 11 CDR/W discs later I completed my backup thinking why did it take so many discs for approx 12 songs.

Suddenly it all comes to me, I have not been Optimizing my recorded data. I don't know if you do this, if not what it does is it wipes all data space used by editing, tracking, erasing etc, effectively leaving more hard disc available.

Example: One song I had recorded was approx 7000mb in size, after I went and erased my unwanted v-tracks and used the optimizing function the file size was reduced to 1550mb.
Have you or do you use the Optimizing function?

Kev (Gorty)