wats the secret in quality droppin beats!!???

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hey always wondered why so called proffesional beats always sound alot crispier and heavy!!! why??? issit samples that they use?? or do they have summat we dnt????? ( i jus heard this mp3 sample and the beats nearly blowed ma speakers away, n sent me boppin )!!
 
Based on the rappers I've worked with and the not so great beats they've brought in compared to the pro's:

1.) The beats are written with some clue to what music theory is.

2.) The beats aren't a stereo submix, allowing you to actually mix, compress and eq the individual tracks come mix time.

3.) Pro's don't try to record 2-3 songs in one hour and have no mixing time at all.

4.) Most pro's aren't writing their lyrics 5 minutes after getting to the studio.

5.) Not having most of your tracks clipping is always nice.

6.) Not using a bunch of weak 8 bit samples found online is another plus.

7.) Pro's will actually use real Minimoogs, 808's and so forth.

8.) In general the pros are probably spending 20-30 hours more time than your local MC's to get it right.

9.) Pro's hire the best songwriters and sound designers to work on their stuff, instead of buying 50 dollar beats from PhatDoggBlunt.com productions.
 
Cloneboy Studio said:
Based on the rappers I've worked with and the not so great beats they've brought in compared to the pro's:

1.) The beats are written with some clue to what music theory is.

2.) The beats aren't a stereo submix, allowing you to actually mix, compress and eq the individual tracks come mix time.

3.) Pro's don't try to record 2-3 songs in one hour and have no mixing time at all.

4.) Most pro's aren't writing their lyrics 5 minutes after getting to the studio.

5.) Not having most of your tracks clipping is always nice.

6.) Not using a bunch of weak 8 bit samples found online is another plus.

7.) Pro's will actually use real Minimoogs, 808's and so forth.

8.) In general the pros are probably spending 20-30 hours more time than your local MC's to get it right.

9.) Pro's hire the best songwriters and sound designers to work on their stuff, instead of buying 50 dollar beats from PhatDoggBlunt.com productions.
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:D :D :D
 
I also believe that most pros will tend to view 24-bit .wav or .aif as the standard file format ... rather than MP-3s ripped to an audio CD. :D
 
Cloneboy Studio said:
Based on the rappers I've worked with and the not so great beats they've brought in compared to the pro's:

1.) The beats are written with some clue to what music theory is.

2.) The beats aren't a stereo submix, allowing you to actually mix, compress and eq the individual tracks come mix time.

3.) Pro's don't try to record 2-3 songs in one hour and have no mixing time at all.

4.) Most pro's aren't writing their lyrics 5 minutes after getting to the studio.

5.) Not having most of your tracks clipping is always nice.

6.) Not using a bunch of weak 8 bit samples found online is another plus.

7.) Pro's will actually use real Minimoogs, 808's and so forth.

8.) In general the pros are probably spending 20-30 hours more time than your local MC's to get it right.

9.) Pro's hire the best songwriters and sound designers to work on their stuff, instead of buying 50 dollar beats from PhatDoggBlunt.com productions.
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I think you nailed it... Chess too!
 
Y'all left out the most important and obvious part...

Skills :cool: :D
 
I just don't think anyone could have nailed it on the head any better than Cloneboy. Speaking to any/all rap / hiphop producers ... for the love of all that is holy, please please when you record your beats to whatever sound card or audio interface you're currently using, leave yourself some room.

This is not analog, where slamming the input until the meters are pegged might actually sound good / interesting. Find out where your input meters are. Watch them, and make sure they're not running so hot that they peg the top of the meter.

There's this thing called digital clipping, and you should familiarize yourself with what it is and how to avoid it. Thanks you.

After that, leave it alone. Don't get all cute and apply EQ to it. Just rip the tracks as a 24-bit .wav, and let me handle the rest. That's why I'm here. And that's why Cloneboy is here ... and Bluebear and whomever else.
 
Dang, PhatDoggBlunt.com must've gone out of business, cause I couldn't find their website. Now where the heck do I go for my beats?


;)
 
corban said:
Dang, PhatDoggBlunt.com must've gone out of business, cause I couldn't find their website. Now where the heck do I go for my beats?


;)
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Make 'em yourself!!!
Take a drum beat. Put some chords behind it. Play that for 2 bars. Change chords ONCE if it's a full moon that night (note*: this is not required though)
Now duplicate those 2-4 bars for the entire song!
BAM. Instant hiphop/rap music!
 
bennychico11 said:
Make 'em yourself!!!
Take a drum beat. Put some chords behind it. Play that for 2 bars. Change chords ONCE if it's a full moon that night (note*: this is not required though)
Now duplicate those 2-4 bars for the entire song!
BAM. Instant hiphop/rap music!
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:D Ouch.

To be fair, I'm sure it takes a lot more than that to make GOOD hiphop.
 
corban said:
:D Ouch.

To be fair, I'm sure it takes a lot more than that to make GOOD hiphop.
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A good selection of CD's to sample from wouldn't hurt.

Joking, joking.
 
Myriad_Rocker said:
A good selection of CD's to sample from wouldn't hurt.

Joking, joking.
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Ah, but even those who sample other stuff, if it's good, it adds to the original song. If it's bad, it's just bad...
 
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