Warming it up....

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Anybody using one of the tube processors to warm up digital recordings?
If so, are you doing it track by track or the whole piece during mastering?

I've seen the 8track Behringer unit. Any feedback on this unit or any others?
 
getuhgrip said:
...to warm up digital recordings?
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Hmm... I'm surprised at you.... you should know better than to say something like that!

And you know that those cheap "tube" units is really "faux tube."

Sheesh..............have we taught you nothing?????????????

Bruce
 
I'm intrigued by those peavey vmp's. Kinda' inexpensive (for what you get, that is) but certainly not of the "faux tube" variety, from what I gather. I read an article where Butch Vig says he likes to track to analog tape, and then have them converted to digital for editing. I can see recording individual tracks (important ones) and overdubs to 1/4" and then converting those straight to digital to mix with everything else.

They might not sync up perfectly at first, but then there's always time-stretch. I've done some experimenting with this, but haven't quite got the tape deck thing mastered - it's been a while since I've had to use one of those old dynosaurs!
 
As usual Mr. Bear, ya leave me wondering if your pullin' my chain.
You've been doing this professionaly for years, while just two short years ago I asked about the feasablity of reducing a Samson R11 to 1/8" to go into a soundblaster!

And I thought you were a sincere "Brotherhood of the Duck" member. :( :D
 
those beringer units look cool in your rack. that's about all they are good for.
 
getuhgrip said:
As usual Mr. Bear, ya leave me wondering if your pullin' my chain.
You've been doing this professionaly for years, while just two short years ago I asked about the feasablity of reducing a Samson R11 to 1/8" to go into a soundblaster!

And I thought you were a sincere "Brotherhood of the Duck" member. :( :D
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heh-heh... did I hear you say you wanted to buy a duck? :D

I was just surprised because I've ranted about Faux Tube gear so many times I figured everyone knew it by now! And I've also ranted about the myth of "warming up" digital recording!

Bruce
 
But doesn't the Behrgr Ultratube use tube-type 12AX7!!??
The one's most commonly found in tube-based pre's!
If it does,I guess, wouldn't it , as they say, add some "heat"
to digital!!??
Jus' wonderin'!
 
"Faux Tube" is tube gear that does indeed use a tube, and it may even be part of the circuit... but it's a parallel circuit at best that simply adds a "color" to the sound.

If you remove the tube completely, the signal will still pass - solid-state and without the tube "coloration."

That is NOT a tube-circuit design - that's the equivalent of chaining an effect device into the signal for a different flavour.

Pretty much ALL under-$1000 "tube" gear is designed this way.

Some of the more dispicable manufacturers just have the tube there for the glow, and don't even have it connected in the circuit! And more, sometimes the "glow" is just flourescent paint!!!

:eek:


The reason true tube gear is so expensive is that it IS expensive to design and produce a tube circuit.

Bruce
 
The new myth?

Blue Bear Sound said:
"Faux Tube" is tube gear that does indeed use a tube, and it may even be part of the circuit... but it's a parallel circuit at best that simply adds a "color" to the sound.
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So in other words, you have the option of adding some valve "coloring," and you save money by not having to pay for an expensive, all-valve design.

Plus in many cases, you have control over how clean or colored you want the signal to be - to the point of being able to go with a fairly transparent signal provided the solid-state design is adequate.

And this is a bad thing HOW?
 
What about HHB

What about something like the HHB Raduis 30 tube compressor. Is this a real tube unit or a faux tube unit. How can one know. Is the less than $1000.00 rule a solid and reliable guideline in all cases, some cases or, does it depend on manufacturer.
 
BTW

By the way, it seems like a real tub device because no sound comes out until it warms up much like a real tube device.
 
Re: What about HHB

Jack Hammer said:
How can one know.
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Open it up or ask on rec.audio.pro...

Jack Hammer said:
Is the less than $1000.00 rule a solid and reliable guideline in all cases, some cases or, does it depend on manufacturer.
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I was using that price point as an example, the more important point is that you find the specifics for a piece of gear and cut thru the marketing bullshit....

That being said, 2 more points....

1) HHB does make good gear, and actually, I don't beleive it is faux tube, but do a search on RAP - I've seen it commented on many times. As a matter of fact, this whole "faux tube" thing has been commented on many times there too, so people don't have to take only my word for it!

2) This point important (especially for chess - who seems to have his trousers in a bunch over my comments!)

I'm not suggesting in ANY way that you can't make good use out of Faux Tube - if it gives you the sound you want, then go for it.... all I'm saying is that if you want a true piece of tube gear, then be aware that putting the word TUBE on the front fascia is a marketing spec, not a design spec!

Bruce
 
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