Want Some Feedback On This New Song

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I made this song in about 2 and 1/2 hours today. I played all the parts in it (guitar, bass, drums). There isn't alot to this song, I mostly made it for mixing/mastering practice. I don't really play drums so if their off or anything like that then you'll know why. Just give some comments, suggestions, Pros, Cons, ya know, that kinda stuff. Thanks.
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Pretty cool. I really like the sound of the guitars. What kind of set up did you use?
 
Your probably going to kill me when I tell you. I used the Behringer V-Amp Pro on the Modern High Gain Setting, which went to an Aphex 204 exciter, which went to a dbx 166 XL compressor, then I EQ'd it with the waves parametric EQ in order to get a more beefier, chunky sound. The guitars are doubled up and faded left and right accept for the beginning and end quiet parts. The bass is going through the same chain accept it's plugged into the Behringer Bass V-Amp. Those are the only two pieces of Behringer equipment I own. Behringer didn't do to bad of a job on those V-Amps, as long as you know how to use them and tweak them to your liking. Anyone else want to comment?
 
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I plan to put in some vocals and a guitar solo pretty soon to make it little more interesting.
 
Great sound choice of guitars for the style of music.
I look forward to hearing the finished product.
 
Drum Sound

Thanks guys. What do you all think of the sound of the drums? Any suggestions or comments on drums? Drums aren't my main instrument but I'm learning and teaching myself how to play based on hearing others I play with and hear of CDs .
 
Sounds great :) So I'm wondering.. I think my Behringer LX1200H amp is pretty much the same as that V-Amp Pro you have. I have trouble getting a good recorded sound with it. I don't know if it's the cabinet, the mic, the preamp, my soundcard, or what though. It just sounds too hollow and quiet or something.
 
austinm08 said:
Sounds great :) So I'm wondering.. I think my Behringer LX1200H amp is pretty much the same as that V-Amp Pro you have. I have trouble getting a good recorded sound with it. I don't know if it's the cabinet, the mic, the preamp, my soundcard, or what though. It just sounds too hollow and quiet or something.
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Well, I'm recording the guitar direct with my Schecter C-1 plus with Gibson SG pickups installed. Does your amp have a cab simulated output? Because maybe the way you miking your cab is creating that "hollow" sound. I don't your setup so it's hard to say.
 
GOODLAND said:
Well, I'm recording the guitar direct with my Schecter C-1 plus with Gibson SG pickups installed. Does your amp have a cab simulated output? Because maybe the way you miking your cab is creating that "hollow" sound. I don't your setup so it's hard to say.
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Well.. I guess it could be a number of things why I can't get that sound. Did you use a mic or not? Never said anything about it.
First off, I'd say you have a lot better guitar than me.

Squier Strat w/ double humbuckers

Behringer LX1200H
with the Behringer Ultrastack BG412V cabinet

Shure SM-57 to an M-Audio AuddioBuddy preamp

to *shudders* Soundblaster line in.


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there seems to be a problem. like I can't record very loud with the SM57, because a crackling scratchy noise forms. I dunno if it's the mic, the preamp, the card, or what. Maybe if I had a better setup of mic, pre, and card, the cab isn't the problem. I don't know really.
 
austinm08 said:
Well.. I guess it could be a number of things why I can't get that sound. Did you use a mic or not? Never said anything about it.
First off, I'd say you have a lot better guitar than me.

Squier Strat w/ double humbuckers

Behringer LX1200H
with the Behringer Ultrastack BG412V cabinet

Shure SM-57 to an M-Audio AuddioBuddy preamp

to *shudders* Soundblaster line in.


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there seems to be a problem. like I can't record very loud with the SM57, because a crackling scratchy noise forms. I dunno if it's the mic, the preamp, the card, or what. Maybe if I had a better setup of mic, pre, and card, the cab isn't the problem. I don't know really.
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It could be your Pre-Amp, I used the AudioBuddy but got rid of it to upgrade to the M-Audio DMP-3 which is a way better Pre. I'm not micing anything, in fact everything you are hearing on that song is recorded direct, even the drums which is the Yamaha DTXtreme IIS (cost me $2000.00 on ebay but worth every penny and I added two cymbals and an iron cobra double kick pedal). I didn't mension the fact that I was using the electric kit because I wanted to see if anyone could figure it out. The drum kit did take some tweeking though. I put a EQ on the Kick and I put the plug-in called SMACK! on the snare to get more of a compressed sound. Anymore Comments?
 
jmxdrummer said:
i like it!!! Killer sound. You might consider a little compression on the overhead drum mics and turn up the kick and snare a bit. Great job. You were able to create that guitar sound out of your Behringer v-amp? Shit I just sold mine on ebay.



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Yeah, I think turning up the snare and kick a bit might be a good idea. Keep in mind the Aphex 204 exciter and dbx 166XL helped me to achieve that guitar sound, not just the Behringer V-Amp alone. I recently got the Line6 PODXT Live pedal and it has great sounds for live performances, but I still use the V-Amp instead because it seems to give more of a miked Cab feeling to the guitar.
 
GOODLAND said:
Your probably going to kill me when I tell you. I used the Behringer V-Amp Pro on the Modern High Gain Setting, which went to an Aphex 204 exciter, which went to a dbx 166 XL compressor, then I EQ'd it with the waves parametric EQ in order to get a more beefier, chunky sound. The guitars are doubled up and faded left and right accept for the beginning and end quiet parts. The bass is going through the same chain accept it's plugged into the Behringer Bass V-Amp. Those are the only two pieces of Behringer equipment I own. Behringer didn't do to bad of a job on those V-Amps, as long as you know how to use them and tweak them to your liking. Anyone else want to comment?
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I´m downloading your song and will hear...
but why "kill" you? I used a fender twin and a mesa boogie for years in recordings, and now i´m using only a pod line 6 direct, without compresor or exciters.If sounds good, no problem... :cool:
 
GOODLAND said:
It could be your Pre-Amp, I used the AudioBuddy but got rid of it to upgrade to the M-Audio DMP-3 which is a way better Pre. I'm not micing anything, in fact everything you are hearing on that song is recorded direct, even the drums which is the Yamaha DTXtreme IIS (cost me $2000.00 on ebay but worth every penny and I added two cymbals and an iron cobra double kick pedal). I didn't mension the fact that I was using the electric kit because I wanted to see if anyone could figure it out. The drum kit did take some tweeking though. I put a EQ on the Kick and I put the plug-in called SMACK! on the snare to get more of a compressed sound. Anymore Comments?
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So the DMP-3 is much better eh? Maybe I should upgrade. And to record direct, how did you do that? You plugged into your amp.. then do you use a speaker output, or headphone output, or what, then skipped to your line in (besides going through the exciter and comp.)?

So you didn't use your preamp right? You don't need it if you go direct, am I correct?
 
CIRO said:
I´m downloading your song and will hear...
but why "kill" you? I used a fender twin and a mesa boogie for years in recordings, and now i´m using only a pod line 6 direct, without compresor or exciters.If sounds good, no problem... :cool:
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Yeah, but most behringer stuff gets shot down around here. And I do agree that almost all their stuff lacks in quality but the behringer V-Amp Pro series is probably the only piece of equipment from them that I like. When I first started my studio I found that almost every behringer peice of equipment I owned either got sold or given away.
 
austinm08 said:
So the DMP-3 is much better eh? Maybe I should upgrade. And to record direct, how did you do that? You plugged into your amp.. then do you use a speaker output, or headphone output, or what, then skipped to your line in (besides going through the exciter and comp.)?

So you didn't use your preamp right? You don't need it if you go direct, am I correct?
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Correct, my V-Amp Pro acts as the pre-amp, so there is really no need for any other pre-amps. To record direct out of your amp you could use the phones output or if you have an emulated cab output from your amp that would work fine I guess. just experiment and see what you think sounds best.
 
GOODLAND said:
Correct, my V-Amp Pro acts as the pre-amp, so there is really no need for any other pre-amps. To record direct out of your amp you could use the phones output or if you have an emulated cab output from your amp that would work fine I guess. just experiment and see what you think sounds best.
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So did you use the headphone port? Just wondering. Thanks.. I've never tried this. It might work better than my mic method, considering the mic and preamp I have. (maybe it's more of the preamp, instead of the mic)
 
austinm08 said:
So did you use the headphone port? Just wondering. Thanks.. I've never tried this. It might work better than my mic method, considering the mic and preamp I have. (maybe it's more of the preamp, instead of the mic)
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The V-Amp Pro I use is made specifically for direct recording so it has many different outputs for recording. Since you are using an actual amp, your only choice might be a headphone output. I would go ahead and give it a try.
 
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