Wah Wow Wipeout # Whatever it may be.

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Here's a draft of the song with vocals.
Constructed from an MP3 of the vocals sent to me by Terry this morning.
The sound quality is as you would expect for an MP3 converted to wav, inserted, played with & the whole thing converted to MP3.
As a draft of melody, lyric & mix how is it hanging.
Oh, there's an effect on the last vocal tag that I put in just to match the tweeness of the solo panning - not a required artifact by any means.
The story is of the often cynical & parasitic nature of "news" photography.
Link to the 2nd version today
http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=4421331&q=hi
WAH WOW (But is it Art?)
Life becomes a portrait
Feel no passion, feel no pain
Sell the image of a victim
Staring blankly from a frame
Steal the souls of nameless children
From terraced back-street slums
Let the vultures land near babies
Steal the moment, then just run
CHORUS
Just what is it that the pictures try to say?
Will they make a difference at the ending of the day?
You can cover gallery walls with your visual skill
As you suck your subjects dry – will you ever get your fill?
So, catalogue new anguish
Change your subjects every year
There’s no romance in someone’s hunger
No romance in catching fear
That’s etched on haunted faces
Or waifs with wide-starved eyes
To bolster reputations
And carry off the prize
CHORUS
Just what is it that the pictures try to say?
Will they make a difference at the ending of the day?
You can cover gallery walls with your visual skill
As you suck your subjects dry – will you ever get your fill?
Life becomes a portrait
Feel no passion, feel no pain
Steal the souls of nameless children
From a terraced slumlord’s lane
Catalogue new anguish
Change your subjects every year
There’s no romance in someone’s hunger
Win those prizes catching fear
Let the vultures land near babies
Steal the moment, then just run
Feel no passion, feel no pain
 
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I think it's heading in a good direction...I like the lyrics. And they are sung well. Should be a cool tune when finished man... :cool:
 
Great vocals by Terry - they fit the music well. Great melody. Lyrics are well written and evoke much thought about an interesting topic.

I think the vocals could use a bit more volume and maybe a bit less reverb - not sure until the level comes up.

The rest of the mix seems to be ok - bass, guitar and drums are good where they sit now....

The effect on the ending is cool but may be a bit too far removed from the main vocal as to make it out of place.....maybe use less of the effect......

Cool to watch this tune evolve with the added vocals......

:) :D :) :D
 
Hey Ray, sounding real cool man, love the instrumentation. Listening to your new version, on my system still think the vox could fit better/have more volume. Good driving piece here, chorus is nice, enjoy this :cool:
 
Snakedog,
Ta - I'm in 2 minds about whether the vocals should be obscure or up there. I know that, without exception, I've been prodded in the direction of lifting vocals for all my stuff - problem is as a listener I like things a little buried so my 1st mixes usually give vent to my perverse inclinations.
I'll give a vocal lift a go manyanah.
 
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Dogman,
What do you think needs doing? I'm running out iof steam.
ido1957,
I've evened, & raised slightly, the vocal volume. The effect has been tamed somewhat at the end.
http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=4421331&q=hi

Thanks for the comments fellows.
I think it just needs to have a bit more depth...find a few of the sounds you really want to stand out, and boost them slightly.

Here is sort of what I hear in the song...Wow

I tried to emphasize the vocals some, and certain portions of the drums. I couldn't get all the drum sounds I wanted, as it got too overpowering. I tried to make the snare a bit snappy, but couldn't get the kick where I wanted it, as it just took over then. I also tried to make the bass and guitar have a bit more sound....I used a compressor, and tried to isolate certain things, and bring them up some. Far from perfect, but hopefully it will give you some ideas. This left the vocals sitting in the mix, a little quiet. I thought it gave the song a nice, somber sort of vibe.

Just my thoughts, but hopefully that explains a bit what I hear in your tune.

Nice one man....
 
I really like the vocals in this. It suits the music perfectly. So do the lyrics. The mix is pretty cool, too. So is Dogman's.

You should try something as an experiment. Try mixing down the song without boosting a single frequency. See how it would end up if all you did was cut un-wanted frequencies, and resisted the temptation to boost anything. Myself, with the exception of some 5k on my bass drum, I never boost anything. Since I started doing that, my mixes started to breathe more naturally. Just an experiment. If you don't do it with this tune, think about doing with your next one.
 
Dogman,
Like Wow! That really matches where my head was when I started mixing - a much more psychedelic take. Truly excellent work. I'll try your ideas. Any details on exactly what freqs etc?
RAMI,
I actually bought an outboard Altec Lansing Voicette subtractive EQ to do what you suggest, being hardware though & it's results perm. I've not used it much. It is a better way to think about sound from the beginning. It's also a nice piece of gear.
Thanks fellas - I've fresh ears & mind to move on with now.
 
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