H
hoursonend
Member
(deleted)
Last edited:
BigRay
New member
Quite simply...
Take Lessons.Any person who wants to improve should take lessons. You arent going to find answers from us. YOu need one on one time with a teacher.
While we can offer basic advice...each persons voice mechanism is different, thus there can be slight variations in how a teacher would approach your voice.
(while the good teachers should all follow the "basic" ideas)
I can suggest you a VERY good book though about the voice. "the four voices of man" by jerome hines. a brilliant book written by a man who was a leading singer at the met until up in his 80s. And before you say"well, i dont want to sound like an opera singer" ALL singing styles should focus around the basic good habits. Mr Hines explains these ideas very well. HIGHLY reccomended. And GET A TEACHER. Dont rely on tips here. It would barely scratch the surface.
Take Lessons.Any person who wants to improve should take lessons. You arent going to find answers from us. YOu need one on one time with a teacher.
While we can offer basic advice...each persons voice mechanism is different, thus there can be slight variations in how a teacher would approach your voice.
(while the good teachers should all follow the "basic" ideas)
I can suggest you a VERY good book though about the voice. "the four voices of man" by jerome hines. a brilliant book written by a man who was a leading singer at the met until up in his 80s. And before you say"well, i dont want to sound like an opera singer" ALL singing styles should focus around the basic good habits. Mr Hines explains these ideas very well. HIGHLY reccomended. And GET A TEACHER. Dont rely on tips here. It would barely scratch the surface.
M
mattkw80
New member
Repetition is the mother of skill.
Decision is the father of action.
(These are Tony Robbins quotes).
Decision is the father of action.
(These are Tony Robbins quotes).
A
artlover
New member
BigRay said:
I disagree with this in general. Voice lessons are expensive and most voice teachers are coming from a classical background which is only one way to sing. My suggestion is to join a choir of some sort. Jazz choir is the best if your gonna sing any kind of popular music. You can learn how to harmonize, arrange, and improve. If the directors any good he should help with breathing techniques and so forth. Voice lessons are really only gonna teach u technique and the problem with most singers is they can't read music, harmonize or improve. Most singers are also egosentric which is why bands don't have as many lead singers these days unless they play an instrument or are musical singers not front man jokers.
BigRay
New member
I disagree with this TOTALLY. He was asking about what he can do to improve his singing...Well, steering someone away from a teacher is an idiotic thing to do.Voice teachers are invaluable.. And your assertion that MOST voice teachers are coming from a classical background is totally off. Also, your statement that they teach only one way to sing is TOTALLY off.....My first two teachers weren't Classically Trained, one was a jazz singer, and one was a bass in a barbershop quartet. Also, solid technique is solid technique...it can be applied to any style of singing, whether classical, jazz, or rock.... Voice teachers build good habits, help the student discover his or her voice, help them market their talent...and so many other things.. "Jazz Choir is the best if you are going to sing popular music" WHAT?? That makes absolutely no sense so I wont even address it...."Voice lessons are expensive" It totally depends on the teacher...Arrangement, improvisation, harmony, pedagogy, etc are all taught in their respective classes..sure they can be honed in Choir rehearsal..but choir rehearsal isnt for "learning" much of anything but the music in front of your face. "Voice lessons are really only going to teach you technique"..ONLY technique, eh??Again..totally off, false statement..."If the directors any good he should help with breathing techniques and so forth."--It isnt the directors job to teach "breathing techniques",,now he can offer suggestions that pertain to the score..(stagger breathing,etc) but if my Choir Director started trying to give me voice lessons...wed have serious problems...Again, another totally off base statement.."and the problem with most singers is they can't read music, harmonize or improve."---Are you SERIOUS???You cant be.completely absurd..."Most singers are also egosentric " again, wrong...
Your comments are full of blanket statments and generalizations...just plain false....I cant find one shred of truth in anything you said. Please avoid giving out horrible advice.,..God Forbid someone take you up on it. I have to say in my years of professional singing, graduating college with a music degree, and growing up with musicians...I have to say that this is the 1st time I have heard ANYONE tell another person to avoid a voice teacher.
Even the most famous singers from Pavarotti, Pink, Madonna, Marc Antony, Josh Groban, Ricky Martin....Domingo...All have voice teachers...Voice teachers are VITAL to discovering the voice's true potential...If you want to succeed you need 4 things...
1.)Raw Vocal Talent/Not be tone deaf(not everyone has that, sadly)
2.)Dedication
3.)A voice teacher
4.)Practice!
Your comments are full of blanket statments and generalizations...just plain false....I cant find one shred of truth in anything you said. Please avoid giving out horrible advice.,..God Forbid someone take you up on it. I have to say in my years of professional singing, graduating college with a music degree, and growing up with musicians...I have to say that this is the 1st time I have heard ANYONE tell another person to avoid a voice teacher.
Even the most famous singers from Pavarotti, Pink, Madonna, Marc Antony, Josh Groban, Ricky Martin....Domingo...All have voice teachers...Voice teachers are VITAL to discovering the voice's true potential...If you want to succeed you need 4 things...
1.)Raw Vocal Talent/Not be tone deaf(not everyone has that, sadly)
2.)Dedication
3.)A voice teacher
4.)Practice!
artlover said:
S
soundchaser59
Reluctant Commander
Best thing that ever happened to my singing was lessons. There may be many different STYLES of singing, but there is really one one correct TECHNIQUE, regardless of what style you want to sing.
And I'm sorry to say there are very very few "naturals" out there who have great technique without taking any lessons. Voice is the most personal instrument, and one of the most difficult to perform, and one of the most difficult to record.
I think the easiest style to learn is contemporary country. Even if you dont like the tunes, the genre has some really fantastic singers. It is the most forgiving style there is, and it aint all about drinking and cheatin and wrecking pickup trucks! Take some lessons, and try to listen to Clint Black, Steve Wariner, Travis Tritt, Leann Rimes, or Martina McBride. But whatever you do, dont try to emulate Madonna....... LOL!!
And I'm sorry to say there are very very few "naturals" out there who have great technique without taking any lessons. Voice is the most personal instrument, and one of the most difficult to perform, and one of the most difficult to record.
I think the easiest style to learn is contemporary country. Even if you dont like the tunes, the genre has some really fantastic singers. It is the most forgiving style there is, and it aint all about drinking and cheatin and wrecking pickup trucks! Take some lessons, and try to listen to Clint Black, Steve Wariner, Travis Tritt, Leann Rimes, or Martina McBride. But whatever you do, dont try to emulate Madonna....... LOL!!