vocal mic brighter than V67?

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I've been using the Marshall V67M for recording my voice and my 'cello. I've had good success with it (thanks for the advice, Harvey!) except that I find I consistently have to use a fair amount of EQ-- cut at 180-200 Hz and boost at about 4.8 kHz. (By the way, you can stream or download mp3's of my music at www.mizmor.com/donnewmeyer).

Can anyone recommend a mic that's as rich as the V67 but with a brighter sound, i.e. a peak near 4.8 K? I'm looking at the Rode NTK, for example, or the TLM103 (though the new higher price of the latter is putting me off).

Thanks!

Don Newmeyer
www.newmeyer.org
 
To me, the Studio Projects C1 sounds like a brighter version of the Marshall v67. That one might do you nicely.

If you like the sound of bright microphones, the Marshall mxl 2003 / v93 is very bright-sounding. Sometimes too much so, but if that's what you're looking for, then you might like it.

The NTK and TLM103 are good options also.
 
Thanks, Chessrock. The C1 might just fill the bill.

By the way, have you (or has anyone else) tried the ADK A-51TC? Do you think it's brighter/darker compared to the V67, for example?


Don
 
The V69 is the tube version of the 67 I guess and it sounds really big and bright.
 
I'd agree with chessrock that the C1 is brighter and slightly less colored than the V67. If you still want the "richness", I don't think the 103 is the way to go.

The ADK A-51TC is brighter and more airy sounding than the V67. It still has the richness though but not as colored.

The V67 is one of the most colored mics I've used.

Dan Richards
Digital Pro Sound
The Listening Sessions
 
Dot, I have the v67G. It is my first LDC mic and I like it so far, but I'm not blown away by it. What do you mean when you say colored? Is that more mids or bottom end, or is that in comparison to the other mics that you own? I'm trying to get some reference points before I purchase another mic in the future. At this point in time looking at microphone specs is meaningless to me.
 
Before you start looking around for another mic, try this (just for fun):

Double your normal distance from the mic, and boost the gain about 3 dB (i.e., if your normal distance is 6" from the mic, try standing about 12" away instead).

Remove any windscreens and pop filters.

Lemme know if that helps.
 
Try the V67g, its green and gold, which is brighter than the M, which is black. They made a silver one, I forget the letter, but that would be the brightest.
 
Thanks, everyone.

Harvey, I'll try your suggestion with the vocals. I've been keeping the mic about 8 inches away, with a pop screen, so your idea may help.

Dot, I do like the coloration of the V67, especially as I record all-digital. But in the future I want to try a slightly less colored mic, especially for the 'cello. I think the V67 may be adding a little too much color, though it's not a bad sound. Also, I've noticed that the V67 has a funny off-axis response, and the placement seems to make a big difference. With the 'cello I've had the best results with the mic pointing down perpendicular to the front of the instrument, about three feet away. I still have to use EQ, however.

Don
 
I agree with chessrock statement... "To me, the Studio Projects C1 sounds like a brighter version of the Marshall v67. That one might do you nicely."

However, before buying another mic... I'd try Harvey's suggestion first.


Harvey Gerst said:
Before you start looking around for another mic, try this (just for fun):

Double your normal distance from the mic, and boost the gain about 3 dB (i.e., if your normal distance is 6" from the mic, try standing about 12" away instead).

Remove any windscreens and pop filters.

Lemme know if that helps.
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If you want a "less colored" LDC for your cello, try out the Studio Projects B1 at only $79... it's one of the most "neutral" sounding LDC around. It's not as bright as the C1, but it's also not as "colored" either.
 
I don't think the Studio Projects B1 is a flat or neutral mic... good sounding yes... but not flat or neutral.
 
DJL - when comparing my SP B1's to either my C1 or v67, they sound mighty flat and neutral to me... not as flat or neutral as my SM-81 SDC's, but comparitively speaking, the little B1's sound much more neutral and flat than the C1 or v67 IMHO.
 
kid klash, that may be true... however, the SP B1 is not a flat or neutral mic.
 
Harvey, thanks for the tip. I'll give it a shot and see how it turns out.
 
DJL said:
kid klash, that may be true... however, the SP B1 is not a flat or neutral mic.
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DJL - to coin your phrase - "that may be true" - but the SP B1 is much closer to "flat" and "neutral" than any C1 or v67... wouldn't you agree? Especially if you needed to use one of the three to "accurately" mic a cello?

My point is that the B1 doesn't have the peaked top end of the C1, nor does it have the "dark" top end or "thick" bottom end of the v67... which makes the B1 much more neutral and flat compared to the other two.

Don't get me wrong; I love the C1 for many vocals, and the v67 sounds pretty good on some vocals too, but I've never cared for either one on acoustic instruments. But hey - that's just MHO. YMMV.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
Before you start looking around for another mic, try this (just for fun):

Double your normal distance from the mic, and boost the gain about 3 dB (i.e., if your normal distance is 6" from the mic, try standing about 12" away instead).

Remove any windscreens and pop filters.

Lemme know if that helps.
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Good option Harvey, but 3dB also doubles the noise... That might be a problem on Cello, but not vocals.
 
Dot said:
I'd agree with chessrock that the C1 is brighter and slightly less colored than the V67.

The V67 is one of the most colored mics I've used.
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lol, I think the C1 adds a lot of color. I played with the V67 and I have a V93 but my experience has been that the V93 is much more neutral than the C1 on acoustic sources. About the only think I like the C1 on anymore is electric guitar amps.
 
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