Vocal editting?

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Hey guys, I know all about autotune and what not, but I recently discovered pitch correction and what it actually does.

Now, I'm not the BEST singer, and sometimes I may have a slip, so I was just wondering how exactly pitch correction works (I know a lot of singers use this rather then autotune so they get a smooth, natural sound), what programme you need for it, etc. Also, is there any tutorials out there to help? I've tried googling it, but nothing really shows up, so I'm not even show if there is a programme that does it perfectly.

By the way, I'm hoping to record in the next few months, and release some songs via youtube, and was hoping to do some digital editing.
 
Auto-tune is Pitch Correction. It's just when you correct the pitch too much. And I have never ever seen a pitch correction software that sounds natural. If I corrected the pitch just slightly, I could already hear "roboticness" and loss of natural tone.
 
Crows is right, autotune is a tool for pitch correction.

That said, you can correct the pitch of something without autotune (or any other brand of the same thing)

Pro Tools has elastic pitch which allows you to automate the pitch of a recording, and in the past I've used chorus plugins to the same effect.

I'd disable the main voice, and enable one of the 'chorus' voices because they have pitch controls;
Then I'd automate that to touch up the odd note here and there.

Personally, I find i can use autotune (Waves tune) and end up with a completely transparent fix in 99% of cases.
It's all about maintaining natural fluctuation and transition speeds, whilst raising or lowering the overall pitch of a note.


EDIT. Listen to that track from 1:20. I'd say it's tuned.
 
Auto-Tune is a pitch corrector from Antares. What most general listeners think of as "auto tune" is just pitch correction "turned up" for effect.
 
Go in and apply it only to the small bits that need it.
 
To give an analogy, Autotune is just the most common brand of pitch corrector like Kleenex is the best known brand of tissue. However, there are lots of other ones out there.

Too much pitch correction is that effect that is so overused these days but, used subtlely you can get away with it--sometimes.

From my own experience, I suspect that when pitch correction is used on somebody like Britney, the automatic feature is rarely used. It's more likely that somebody has gone through and manually corrected note by note, trying for the most subtle effect possible.

FYI, I'm an audition user and, though I played with the free trial of the Antares plugin, in the end I decided that the built in pitch correction in Audition did just as much. Alas, in the latest version of Audition, they only have the automatic so I've kept using version 3.01 for the time being. I'm sure most DAWs have something similar.
 
melodyne has came up with a VST version of their editor which allows it to be used within your DAW without melodyne bridge...the basic programme is more than enough for anyone, I think DNA is probably something best left for the studios

contrary to whats said you can always get away with it if you know what you are doing and dont use it as an effect.

Id hazard a guess that 99.9% of any modern pop has some pitch correction in it, and a good deal of everything else released
 
CrowsofFritz said:
Auto-tune is Pitch Correction. It's just when you correct the pitch too much. And I have never ever seen a pitch correction software that sounds natural. If I corrected the pitch just slightly, I could already hear "roboticness" and loss of natural tone.
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Really, I highly doubt anyone can hear 1/4 or 1/2 tone pitch changes in a good program.

Robotic-ness comes from straightening the natural vibrato in the voice. If the note is straight but a 1/8 tone flat raising to pitch is like a copy and paste, there should be no noticable change in the audio.

A good program can manually change any segment of any note in a variety of ways.
 
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PDP said:
Really, I highly doubt anyone can hear 1/4 or 1/2 tone pitch changes in a good program.

Robotic-ness comes from straightening the natural vibrato in the voice. If the note is straight but a 1/8 tone flat raising to pitch is like a copy and paste, there should be no noticable change in the audio.

A good program can manually change any segment of any note in a variety of ways.
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I was talking from my experience. I have not used great pitch correction software. The one I have used in the past did not make any noticeable corrections to the pitch if used subtly. So I wouldn't even bother to use it. I can't remember the one I used. Logic's built in autotune plug-in maybe?

LOL! 2 b nice huh? I can take a hit man!
 
PDP said:
HaHa,

I didnt wanna come off like a know it all since I'm just another home recordist dude too.
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Lol. I've done the same. I just never wrote it down as my "reason for editing" :laughings:
 
Sonar has "V-Vocal" pitch correction. If you don't overdo it the fix can be pretty hard to hear. Some vocals are just too far off and should be re-sung.
 
Personally I kind of like the auto tune effect thrown in there every once in awhile! Just not too much!!!
 
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