"Virtual Tracks"

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Some of the digital multitrackers I've been looking at say they have 8 tracks and 64 "virtual tracks." What does this mean? Does it mean that, within any given tracks, I can record 8 tracks, but that those 8 can only be mixed as 1? Or does it mean I have to pick only 8 tracks to be mixed down? Also, typically, do these machines let you bounce tracks?
 
I have a VS880EX but haven't used it enough to know much about it, but I believe you can mix any track, virtual or otherwise. It's like having 64 tracks recorded, but you can only listen to 8 at a time. Any of those 8 can be a mix of any other tracks. Each track, virtual or otherwise, takes up hard drive space. A better choice of terms might be alternate tracks.
 
Monty's got it right. You essentially have 8 tracks and 7 alternates per each one that are directly linked. To go into detail, In the case of the 880, think of it like having 8 channels, with each channel having 8 tracks. The channels are assigned directly to faders on the unit, and each channel has 8 specific tracks associated with it. You can select which of the tracks (virtual) to associate with a given channel at any point in time from within the pool of 8 that go with the channel.

Here's a rough diagram, with the channels across the top and the tracks underneath:

1 ___ 2 ___ 3 ___ 4 ___ 5 ___ 6 ___ 7 ___ 8
v1 _ v9
v2 _ v10
v3 _ v11
v4 _ v12 etc.
v5 _ v13
v6 _ v14
v7 _ v15
v8 _ v16

You can only play or record with one track per channel at once, so with 8 channels you have a total of 8 tracks that can be played at once. You also have the limitation of having the virtual tracks only associated with a specific channel. For instance, you can't have v14 or v15 playback on channel 3, as they are only for channel 2. 1-8 can only be played on channel 1, so if you want to mix something from tracks v6 and v8 together, you have to copy one of the tracks to a virtual track on a channel you aren't currently using.

On the 880 bouncing is relatively easy, and you can even copy or move tracks from channel to channel with a few button pushes.

[This message has been edited by Jon X (edited 05-08-2000).]
 
If you do decide to get a VS880EX I think they come with software now that let's you control it from your computer. I think you get the basic set of controls and can buy the rest from the software company. I believe it's Datasonic's VStoolbox, which I bought after I bought the VS880EX. It makes things much easier as you can drag tracks and edit and stuff like Jonx is talking about. More like Cakewalk or other computer recording software. Sorry Jonx but I had a hell of a time pushing those buttons.

[This message has been edited by monty (edited 05-08-2000).]
 
True, the 880 isn't the easiest thing in the world to edit with. Copying an entire track from one virtual to another isn't so bad, but editing anything precisely can be a serious headache.

I also move everything to the PC for editing, but by recording all the tracks into SoundForge and editing there. I need to look into the Datasonics software.
 
Jon x ... It's probably easiest to do it your way, as the Datasonics software is more of a hassle than something like Cakewalk. I also have a sp/dif connection on my soundcard so I can do a digital copy from the 880 to the computer. The copy's quality is very good. I tried to tell the difference once and I couldn't.
 
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