Vintage guitar vibe - how to....

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Hey all!

I just recorded a guitar track today for a song I'm doing, a remake of Town Without Pity... Just some simple bass and drums for a guide, still lots of work to do.

Lately I've really been getting into that vintage Gretsch kind of sound, and I plan to get a hollow body axe soon. But....

I think I got kind of a cool sound out of my old guitar, by putting on some flatwound strings, it's the first time I've ever tried them!

I plan to buy an Ibanez AFST75 hollowbody fairly soon, been researching a lot...

You can check out my "Gretschy" track here:


Any comments on the guitar sound or playing appreciated!
 
Well OK, you asked for it:
Great playin' !! Is that a Pod, J station, or another modelling unit? or maybe a SS device like an OD pedal in the signal chain? The distortion on the louder multi-string passages sounds like one of those to me....kinda artificial and missin' somethin', maybe a just a little too much distortion for a vintage vibe. Just my humble opinion. Sounds like a good solid guitar tone underneath though, that sounds way better in the less distorted passages. I believe you are on the path of guitar righteousness, brother.
I think a lot of the vintage 50's and 60's guitar tones were in large part because of the heavy string gauges they used to use back then, probably a lot of flatwounds, too. What gauges are on yer guitar?
 
That really sounds like it should be a James Bond theme song.

I like it. A male singer like Barry Mantilow or a opratic female would do wonders.
 
Oh... couldn't fool you huh? Yes, it was an amp simulator! It's "Amplitube" which is a vst effect in Cubase. (www.amplitube.com)

I could definately turn down the distortion a tad. That's the good thing about using a vitrual amp, you're not comitted to anything! I can change any setting at any time later.

The strings I used were D'addario ECG-23, which I believe is a 10-28, flatwound. Never tried 'em before!
 
Hey, I'm no purist - I use a J-Station. My wife would run me out of the house if I were to record stuff with a real amp, even my Fender Champ!
To my ears modellers can sound ok on clean settings, or maybe full-on distortion, but their big weakness is the mild overdrive/transition stuff - seems like when you hit a certain threshold they get flatulent. The transition zone from clean into distortion I would say is too narrow, and their "early" distortion tone is artificial and transistor-ish, chords lack definition.
I have a limited-feature demo copy of Amplitube and messed with it a little a while back, I liked it a lot better than Revalver, (which was too weird for me), but not as well as my hardware based J Station.
Your playing deserves a better platform than a modelling amp; that piece would sound so much better thru a real amp, but I'm guessing that you have similiar recording limitations.
Hey - read my thread "Has Anyone Tried This" - reading and replying to your post reminded me of an idea I had recently for improving the sound of existing modelling amps...
 
Well, I have a Marshall 4x12 to record, but 2 Peavey combos to power it. No tube gear, though I'd like to get some. I've really had better sounds from this simulated stuff than I ever got from real amps, but probably didn't have the right gear!
 
Peavey SS stuff probably is a notch below the simulators...and there is an art I'm sure to getting a good sound mic'ing even a great amp, I wouldn't know where to start.
 
I just bought an Ibanez AFS75T. It's not a perfect guitar but the price is right. Change the strings before you even plug it in. Let me know if you want me to answer any questions.
 
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