Vegas and phase switching

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I am using two mics to record a guitar amp and need one to be out of phase with the other. Can Vegas do this?

Also, I want to use reverse echo and reverb so I need to be able to reverse a track. Can Vegas do this? I haven't had any luck with either of these tasks.

When is Vegas going to be able to do midi stuff like CrapWalk?

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I don't believe vegas has the ability to change phase of a wav. If you open the wav in an edito like Cool Edit or Sound Forge, you should be able to invert one side.

Similarly, I think to reverse wavs etc. you have to open them in an editor.

In response to your last question. I hope Vegas never implements midi. Sonar/Cakewalk is a great program, but has a lot of bugs because it tries to do everything.... audio, editing, mixdown, soft synths, midi etc. Vegas is simple and much more solid because it only mixes audio.... can't even edit it, just mix it. I say, thanks for the specialized program.

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Yeah, that is what I like about Vegas. It is rock solid. They could use a few more features though. I do have CoolEdit pro and Sound Forge though. I'll check them out.

Have you used Cooledit pro to fix clipped peaks? I don't seem to be able to get it to work right. You can see where the signal has been attenuated but the tops are still flat (but away from 0 db)and the clipping is still audible.
 
I have only used the transform/noise reduction/clip restoration once or twice and I think it was okay..... the material was very lightly clipped. You may get better info on this on the Syntrillium Website.....
 
Nope, Vegas can't invert the wave. Sound forge will do it though. Also for an alternative method, you can just zoom in on the .wav file and drag one while leaving the other where it is. This way you can effectively change the phase relationship of the two miced signals. However, this isn't

I used to do this with drums all the time if I used lots of mics (which is pretty rare these days). I would zoom in on a bass drum hit and drag the files around until the waves were in phase on the tracks that picked up the bass drum loudly. I'd then repeat this for the snare. Its never perfect (since different frequencies have different velocities), but my drum tracks always sounded punchier and the bass drum fuller afterwards. Now, I just do bass, snare and x-y overheads - rarely any phase issues.
 
Which mics are you using?

Do you center the mics over the snare? I have a problem with the snare being too far to one side in the overheads.

I am using two large condensers mics ADK A51's if you haven't them yet, you should check into it. What is the best way to place these mics in the xy configuration?

I was placing them about 1/3 into the kit on each side with the condensers pointing down at the floor.
 
Well, I usually center the X-Y pair over the kit, with the 2 mics at approx 90 degrees to each other, with the capsules as close together as possible. One of the mics is pointing toward the floor and low rack tom, the other toward the the snare and high rack tom. Its true that if you pan the two overheads L/R, the snare will be off-center, but thats why I close mic the snare and use that track to hold the snare in the center. With this technique you lose some of that huge stereo separation you can get with spaced pairs, but you make huge gains in phase correlation.

I'm using small diaphragm condensers right now (marshall 603's) - I'd like to try two large diaphragm mics, but I only have one at the moment. I'm going to try and borrow a friend's 4050 to pair with my 4033 to try different stereo micing techniques (M-S, etc.). Should be fun.
 
Phase inversion in Vegas....

Here's how you can do it. (In case you don't have an editor, or if you are lazy like me :D.) Use this plugin:

AnalogX Phase DirectX Plugin

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, it is FREE!!!!

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WOOHOO!! Yeah thats the one I was looking for. Thanks Man!!
 
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