tyler657recpro
Member
Is it just me, or are you NOT supposed to hear the hammers moving in the piano, (or whatever that dull sound is before every piano key is hit) in the beginning of the song?
crazydoc
Master Baiter
Oh. I'm sorry, please excuse me. I thought I was in the mic forum.
tyler657recpro
Member
It's sorta a mic thing, maybe i shoulda put it in keyboards.
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MusicMan25
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If this was in the keyboard forum ...I would reply.....I think it gives the song a certain unique flavor...
Just my $.02
MM25
Just my $.02
MM25
WATYF
...happier than you.
Um.... ?? er...MusicMan25 said:
I'm pretty sure you did reply...
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jeap
Banned
YEAH SCREWY LOUIE!!!
YOU DID REPLY!!!
YOU DID REPLY!!!
Trak
New member
Honestly this should be in the keyboard forum, but in response I generally favor the hammer sound in most piano recordings I do.
Badger
Active member
Now Now, it concerns micing a piano, so it could be in either forum....
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tyler657recpro
Member
That is what I was thinking, but i didn't think of keyboards at the time.
Why would you WANT to hear the hammers? Its annoying. In the actual CD it's not as bad, but when I downloaded it, I think I got a demo copy or something, or it was really screwed up, and the hammer sound was louder than the piano.
Why would you WANT to hear the hammers? Its annoying. In the actual CD it's not as bad, but when I downloaded it, I think I got a demo copy or something, or it was really screwed up, and the hammer sound was louder than the piano.
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Robert D
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For the same reason that sometimes you want to hear the pick sound. (And don't send me to the guitar forum). 
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crazydoc
Master Baiter
And the string sound. I used to record a guitar part, then edit out all the string tones and just listen to those fingers slidin' over the strings without the music. That was really hard to do, so now I just slide my fingers around over the strings and don't even bother to pick them, so it's a lot easier to play guitar now.Robert D said:
I generally use a Marshall MXL 603s for this, placed 6 inches over the 9th fret and angled toward the tuning key of the A string, into my JoeMeek MQ3.
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JasonSpatola
New member
I'm glad someone else noticed this!
My version sounds pretty boomy as well. In fact, just for fun, I put a highpass filter on the beginning of the song to make it sound a little better.
Really, though, I first attributed this to a miking problem. The hammers sound ok in the rest of the song, though, so maybe it was intentional. Hey, it needs something to compete with that busy mix (and those reverby drums)!
My version sounds pretty boomy as well. In fact, just for fun, I put a highpass filter on the beginning of the song to make it sound a little better.
Really, though, I first attributed this to a miking problem. The hammers sound ok in the rest of the song, though, so maybe it was intentional. Hey, it needs something to compete with that busy mix (and those reverby drums)!
tyler657recpro
Member
im sure the other instruments and compression contribute to the help of the hammers further into the song
darrin_h2000
Banned
I liked the sound of the hammers, so many of the recent recordings have been midi controllers but It is the signature of a real piano. If you dont like that sound you can use a compressor with a parametric eq to notch it out.
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RobbieM
New member
Hi, I'm new to this forum, but I am a piano dealer and also do quite a bit of piano recording. The sound you are hearing is actually the dampers of the piano lifting off of the strings. In larger pianos, such as a 9-foot concert grand (probably what was used on this particular recording) the dampers are quite large and can be rather noisy. Moving the mic a few more inches toward the end of the piano away from the the action would help to remove the sound. However I agree with and earlier post that said they may have wanted this sound for effect or maybe to even prove that she was using a real piano. Don't know...didn't mean to sound like a know-it-all, but this is one area where I have a fair amount of experience.
tyler657recpro
Member
No, that makes sense. Thats what I thought it was, I just didn't know what it was called. I'm not a musician, by any means, wannabe drummer maybe, but drumming isn't a big deal.
Anyway, I think it's annoying.
Anyway, I think it's annoying.
jeap
Banned
its those damn damnpers again!!!
they are trying to provoke me!!!
couldnt you sample the dampers and mimic the sound with a sequencer and "prove" something?
on the album cover you could have the "artist" posing with a real piano but the music could be programmed on a sequencer!
they are trying to provoke me!!!
couldnt you sample the dampers and mimic the sound with a sequencer and "prove" something?
on the album cover you could have the "artist" posing with a real piano but the music could be programmed on a sequencer!
darrin_h2000
Banned
I also dig the same sound on "Right Now" by Van Hallen.
Freudian Slip
New member
No joke!
I thought "right now" was a beer commercial for about 2 weeks when it came out. I kept flicking to a different channel thinking one was on, until one day I became too lazy to reach the car radio button
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I thought "right now" was a beer commercial for about 2 weeks when it came out. I kept flicking to a different channel thinking one was on, until one day I became too lazy to reach the car radio button
F.S.
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MusicMan25
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That was NOT Van Halen who did "Right Now"...it was Van Hagar....big difference....