lesterpaul
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http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000469581
they're back for all that care
they're back for all that care
gvarko
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Interesting
Why is half of eddies head hidden in that photo? Is that the side of his face where his tounge is poking through his cheek???
Why is half of eddies head hidden in that photo? Is that the side of his face where his tounge is poking through his cheek???
Aaron Cheney
Favorite Chord: C 6/9
reel buzzer
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vestast
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Here is another story confirming that Sammy is going to tour with them.
http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusic/mar23_vanhalen-can.html
http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusic/mar23_vanhalen-can.html
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acorec
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lesterpaul said:
I don't care. They are a dead issue from any way you look at them.
lesterpaul
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dead ,don't care ??????
one of the greatest if not the greatest rock guitarist,let alone bands plans to go back out on tour and it's a dead issue ....man i guess the 90's and bad guitar playing really did a number on music as a whole ...i mean i have issues with some things i've heard about the band ,but, how many times have we saw threads here about what happened to solos and real guitar players ....i mean i don't think every song necessarily has to have a solo but c'mon there are none to be found (generalizing here)...well all thats about to change....i guess all should bow to the altar of Cobain tune to one finger chords ....LOL....not ripping on anybody i just thought this would go differently ...later
one of the greatest if not the greatest rock guitarist,let alone bands plans to go back out on tour and it's a dead issue ....man i guess the 90's and bad guitar playing really did a number on music as a whole ...i mean i have issues with some things i've heard about the band ,but, how many times have we saw threads here about what happened to solos and real guitar players ....i mean i don't think every song necessarily has to have a solo but c'mon there are none to be found (generalizing here)...well all thats about to change....i guess all should bow to the altar of Cobain tune to one finger chords ....LOL....not ripping on anybody i just thought this would go differently ...later
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Fusioninspace
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VH isn't really dead. they just haven't grown since their first album. Eddie's been doing the same Eddie licks forever - He may have the first/best at the time... But give me a break! That stuff get's old after about an hour.
People bad mouth someone like Slash who really does try new stuff all the time - he may not be the fastest or flashiest, but he does some interesting stuff that doesn't get quite as quickly. Over the years, people dissed Page for the exact same reason.
I'll go for something new when I can, not the constant rehash of the exact same technique (or close fascimilie) from 20 years ago.
Actually even a new interpretation of the old technique can be nice (ala Johnny A).
People bad mouth someone like Slash who really does try new stuff all the time - he may not be the fastest or flashiest, but he does some interesting stuff that doesn't get quite as quickly. Over the years, people dissed Page for the exact same reason.
I'll go for something new when I can, not the constant rehash of the exact same technique (or close fascimilie) from 20 years ago.
Actually even a new interpretation of the old technique can be nice (ala Johnny A).
Aaron Cheney
Favorite Chord: C 6/9
Wow.
I never thought I'd hear EVH accused of playing the same old stuff over and over. If you compare VH1 to the VHIII (oddly enough, there's about 10 ablums between them), they don't sound anywhere close to each other in terms of songwriting, production, or guitar playing. What was once a guitar only band now sports all kinds of pianos, synths, and keys. Even some ballads. All this not to mention 3 different singers (4 if you count the one Ed sang on the new album).
EVH does have a very distinct, recognizalbe guitar style, but what's the alternative?? And his ryhtm playing is every bit as ground-breaking.
Not everything he touches turns to gold, but his contribution to the world of guitar is simply too great to be dismissed. Listening to Eruption is one thing, but hearing it at a time when nothing like it had ever come before is something very different. It set the guitar world on its ear! Ditto "Cathedral", "Little Guitars", "Meanstreets", etc etc etc.
Wow.
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I never thought I'd hear EVH accused of playing the same old stuff over and over. If you compare VH1 to the VHIII (oddly enough, there's about 10 ablums between them), they don't sound anywhere close to each other in terms of songwriting, production, or guitar playing. What was once a guitar only band now sports all kinds of pianos, synths, and keys. Even some ballads. All this not to mention 3 different singers (4 if you count the one Ed sang on the new album).
EVH does have a very distinct, recognizalbe guitar style, but what's the alternative?? And his ryhtm playing is every bit as ground-breaking.
Not everything he touches turns to gold, but his contribution to the world of guitar is simply too great to be dismissed. Listening to Eruption is one thing, but hearing it at a time when nothing like it had ever come before is something very different. It set the guitar world on its ear! Ditto "Cathedral", "Little Guitars", "Meanstreets", etc etc etc.
Wow.
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lesterpaul
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ditto ...ditto....and ditto ....
couldn't have said it better myself Aaron.....i mean i've made the joke or 2 here and there ....i've even grown to know that the music of my youth doesn't have the same appeal that it did way back ,BUT i long for the next thing they do i will be waiting with baited breath saturday morning with my finger on the clicker to purchase the tix for the greensboro concert ...the very first one as of now on th tour ....
couldn't have said it better myself Aaron.....i mean i've made the joke or 2 here and there ....i've even grown to know that the music of my youth doesn't have the same appeal that it did way back ,BUT i long for the next thing they do i will be waiting with baited breath saturday morning with my finger on the clicker to purchase the tix for the greensboro concert ...the very first one as of now on th tour ....
6gun
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love him or hate him (which one i couldn't care less), eddie's impact on rock guitar is undeniable. i've heard the 'one trick pony' tag before & i wonder if those people have any ear at all.
Outlaws
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bla bla bla bla bla....
..you all know you are still going to go see them.
I am.
..you all know you are still going to go see them.
I am.
King Elvis
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I couldnt agree with Aaron more!!! If you grew up in the late 70's thru the late 80's and you play guitar then Eddie is UNDENIABLY the man. I love his playing. He always pissed me off because I couldnt play like him...I play with a guy at church that has the Wolfgang axe and can play all of his licks...that guy pisses me off too because I still cant play like him. Anyway, I kinda lost touch with VH because I never really could accept the "Van Hagar" era. Diamond Dave and Eddie to me were a magic combination, even if they couldnt stand each other. So I hadnt paid much attention to them for a while because they have been off the map for some time, anyway, not to long ago I am downloading some music off of the net and there is this live version of Eruption that I downloaded. Come to find out it was a video from the Gary Cherone era...I dont care what the hell you say...EDDIE IS STILL THE MAN and that video of him ripping on Eruption like 20 years later brought that fact home for me.
lesterpaul
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maybe we're just getting older ????
and VH is too.... i graduated in 85 so th addition of sammy wasn't that big of a deal i always thought it was a step up into a new direction ,change is never easy ....
and VH is too.... i graduated in 85 so th addition of sammy wasn't that big of a deal i always thought it was a step up into a new direction ,change is never easy ....
Aaron Cheney
Favorite Chord: C 6/9
I think it's a case of a younger generation never having experinced Van Halen in the proper context. Someone born in the mid '80's has lived in a world where two-handed tapping, rock guitar solos in pop songs, and strats with humbuckers in them have always existed.
I graduated in '86, and I was never able to really dig the Hagar era. The Roth era was really one of those rare cases where the total was greater than the sum of the parts. (Ditto the Beatles, LEd Zepplin, and the Police). The nostalgic part of me would love to see them all together again, but the realist in me says it just wouldn't be the same. (As proof I offer you Me Wise Magic...)
Even so, I'll definitely be buying a ticket.
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I graduated in '86, and I was never able to really dig the Hagar era. The Roth era was really one of those rare cases where the total was greater than the sum of the parts. (Ditto the Beatles, LEd Zepplin, and the Police). The nostalgic part of me would love to see them all together again, but the realist in me says it just wouldn't be the same. (As proof I offer you Me Wise Magic...)
Even so, I'll definitely be buying a ticket.
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Man you got that right. I saw VH back in the day with Diamond Dave. Man...they put on a SHOW. Sammy is a powerhouse singer but Dave is a showman par excellance...(is that even a proper phrase) They were huge. True they acheived more mainstream popularity once Sammy joined, but I just felt like the fire was gone at that point. A TRUE VH reunion for me would have to be Dave, Eddie, Alex and Michael. Anything else just wouldnt satisfy
lesterpaul
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hate to say it .....
i think th dave part is gone ...i wish i had saw them too but i think if they brought him back it would be too far gone almost like the hair tours of th not so distant past ,my personal opinion is they are still viable with sammy .....i was gonna say this in an earlier post , but try to take it lightly ....dave era was like a 60's era muscle car and th sammy era is like a ferrari ,they both are awesome machines in their own right but i think they appeal to a different taste....nothing wrong with either one...i say any VH is better than no VH
i think th dave part is gone ...i wish i had saw them too but i think if they brought him back it would be too far gone almost like the hair tours of th not so distant past ,my personal opinion is they are still viable with sammy .....i was gonna say this in an earlier post , but try to take it lightly ....dave era was like a 60's era muscle car and th sammy era is like a ferrari ,they both are awesome machines in their own right but i think they appeal to a different taste....nothing wrong with either one...i say any VH is better than no VH
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I just wish that I had been old enough (I turned four in 1978) to really experience it when the first Van Halen record came out. I really heard them first in the mid-eighties, and by that time so many people where doing inferior versions of Eddie that it did not have the impact anymore. He still did it best, but the wow factor was not the same. I feel the same way about Hendrix. They are both amazing, and they do their thing better than anyone. But the impact of their originality has been dulled by exposure. The only thing like that (in rock and roll) that I can recall is Nirvana, and it just is not the same thing. I mean, I had heard punk before, and the only thing Nirvana really did was make punk popular. I had a little of that from Vernon Reid when I first heard "Cult of Personality," but I have never really had the impact of Eddie or Jimi in my life.
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Eddie is the link that ties it all together. He is the link between the 70's and the 80's. Nobody played like that or sounded like that before he came along, then EVERYBODY tried to play like that and sound like that afterwords. As a teenager in the early to mid 80's for me he was always head and shoulders above everyone else. Everybody was doing Eddie but when you heard the man you KNEW that it was him. What do we have, there are guitar players and then there are the holy grail of guitar players that are in a whole different catagory. Hendrix, Van Halen, Vai, Malmsteen.
Aaron Cheney
Favorite Chord: C 6/9
Man... I remember me and my friends would get so anxious waiting for the next album to come out! Then we'd analize it for months... "How'd he do that?.... What's that noise?.... What's that effect?..." Things like Eruption and Cathedral where just so earth-shaking. I remember listening to the intro to Women in Love and just being amazed. Same with the intro to Meanstreets. Back then you couldn't buy a multi-effect pedal for $99 that did the effect for Cathedral! It was something totally knew that Eddie did by manipulating the volume knob on his guitar. (A little trivia: if you listen closely to the very end of Cathedral, you will hear what seems to be a little flub where the volume knob doesn't get turned down like it does on all the rest of the notes. What happened is that Eddie had been twisting the volume knob so much while rehearsing and recording that track that it actually froze. Mechanical failure. And they kept it! Fat chance keeping a mistake on any album today!)
In those days I remember my girlfriend (now my wife of 15 years) would come over and be pissed because I would put on VH1 and play along with the entire record from beginning to end ( and in those days you even had to flip over the record half-way through!) and ignore her. I knew every note and squeel and pickslide.
I've lost interest a little over the last few albums, but I'll always be interested in what EVH does no matter who's singing. He's not the reason I started playing guitar, but he's the reason why I came to love it.
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In those days I remember my girlfriend (now my wife of 15 years) would come over and be pissed because I would put on VH1 and play along with the entire record from beginning to end ( and in those days you even had to flip over the record half-way through!) and ignore her. I knew every note and squeel and pickslide.
I've lost interest a little over the last few albums, but I'll always be interested in what EVH does no matter who's singing. He's not the reason I started playing guitar, but he's the reason why I came to love it.
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