us122 recording problem

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I am a newcomer... with (probably) an easily solved, common problem for new users. I record fine on a track 1 using Cubase... but then when I want to put on headphones and record a track 2 while listening to track 1, the recording of track 2 picks up the computer speaker outputs of track 1... thus, 'double recording' track 1. When I turn off the computer speakers... I no longer hear track 1 (conclusion... I am only hearing track 1 on the headphones because they are picking up track 1 from the computer speakers thru the microphone). Basically, I guess, the headphones/ us122 are not receiving the track 1 output from the computer electronically. Hope this makes sense! What can I do ... please? hb
 
I'm not sure I totally understand. So:

You record track 1, play it back and it sounds cool.

Then you select track 2, plug your headphones into the US-122, and record on track 2 (all the while it's playing track 1 in your headphones).

Is that right?

If so, is track 2 picking up track 1 AND whatever it is you inteded to record on track 2?

How loud is track 1 bleeding onto track 2? I use a condenser mic with my setup, and it picks anything coming thru my headpones. Picks up my computer fan for that matter.
 
i know theres a way around it. but you better off just deletin cubasis cuz its a piece of shit. j he aint talkin about headphone bleedin or anythin like that. for some reason it records track 1 to track 2. it has somethin to do with midi input and outputs.

if tascam hadnt taken down they damn forums nobody would have these problems.
 
Multi, what software do you use? I haven't had any problems with Cubasis but maybe I don't know what I'm missing (Cubasis is the first and only software I've used)
 
well maybe its good to you but i dont understand how to use it so i dont even bother. i use reason, samplitude, sonar, gigastudio and fruityloops sometimes. i just dont like cubasis its too basic to me.
 
If recording through the headphones this will happen. The headphone level must be to minimum when recording. So basically use your line out to an amp or stereo and plug phones into this to eliminate problem. Seems pointless to have the phone jack doesn't it? i CAN'T FIND ANY OTHER WAY AROUND IT.can you?
Sorry about the caps.
 
What are your computer speakers plugged into? They should be plugged into the line outs of the US122.

utsman, I don't have any problem like that.

The Direct Monitor should be on and turned up to taste. That controls how loud you hear what you're recording. The volume of the tracks that are already recorded are controlled in the software first and then the knobs on the US122.
 
Here is what you do:

1) On the US-122 unit, make sure direct monitoring is enabled and the direct monitoring volume knob is up to a reasonable level.

2) In your recording software, make sure the US-122 is selected as both the "input" and "output" device. In Cubase SE, this is located in the "Devices Menu" as "VST Inputs" and "VST Outputs." Also, make sure your computer's soundcard is not selected for inputs or, especially, outputs while tracking.

3) Check to make sure the correct input is selected for the track to which you are trying to record. This can be done in the mixer view by looking at the top of the channel (should say Input 1, 2, etc. -- i.e., whichever input you are using on the 122)

4) Connect your headphones to the back of the US-122. Make sure the headphone volume is turned up enough to hear it.

Now, you should be able to hear your source that you are recording in the headphones as well as monitor the pre-recorded music. Depending on your latency/buffer settings, there may be a visible difference between what you are hearing and what you are seeing on the screen's meters, but don't worry about that. The 122 adjusts for this latency, so record based on what you are hearing through the headphones.

Hope that helps.
 
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Wow, I just realized this post originated 14-months ago and the original poster has not logged in since then (**smacks forehead**). Well, I hope he got his question answered. And thanks for the rep, apl. :)
 
Yeah there must be something I am missing. When I record listening through the phones jack, the already recorded tracks that I am monitering come through in the background of my new track. I use line out now to amp with phones level to minimum and this doesn't happen so i am not to worried but I still can't work it out. The bleed through if you like is directly proportional to the phones output level.
 
utsman said:
Yeah there must be something I am missing. When I record listening through the phones jack, the already recorded tracks that I am monitering come through in the background of my new track. I use line out now to amp with phones level to minimum and this doesn't happen so i am not to worried but I still can't work it out. The bleed through if you like is directly proportional to the phones output level.

Now that you mention it, I had something similar happen to me with the click showing up in the bass track. I assumed the bass's pickups were the culprit interacting with the headphone cord. I might investigate this more.
 
utsman said:
Yeah there must be something I am missing. When I record listening through the phones jack, the already recorded tracks that I am monitering come through in the background of my new track. I use line out now to amp with phones level to minimum and this doesn't happen so i am not to worried but I still can't work it out. The bleed through if you like is directly proportional to the phones output level.

If this is only happening on tracks where you are using a microphone, then your mic is picking up bleed from your headphones. To avoid this, you need better isolation in your headphones. Make sure they are closed-back and make a good seal around your ears. Look into the Extreme Isolation headphones if you continue to have problems.

If it happens on directly recorded tracks, too, I don't know what to tell you. There may be a wiring problem somewhere. I've never experienced that problem.
 
Iuse a US-122 aldo and have the sameproblem. I just record with the headphones and unplug the output to the speakers. It's pretty anoying having to wear the headphones all the time, but it seams to be the only way. Maybe if you made a soundfroof box for it.
 
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