Underrated: J Mascis (Dinosaur Jr.)

That solo in "Feel the Pain" is so awesome. It's leads like that that you will never forget. I got the new remasters of the Dino Jr, and I'm loving them.
 
TravisinFlorida said:
One of the noisiest but coolest sounding guitar players ever.

Screw you all. All of your guitar players are belong to me.
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Yep, big fan of J. Mascis with Dino Jr. and the Fog
It sucks that some a-holes stole their gear in nyc
 
There's a band I haven't heard in awhile. I need to dig out some Dino Jr. tunes -- you got me pumped to listen to them again!
 
Codmate said:
I don't want to rain on anybody's parade - but that just sounds terrible to me. They're out of tune, out of time and... well... um... just poor...

I mean - is it *meant* to sound like a horrible mess?

IMO of course...
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yes it is. beautiful ain't it? :D

seriously, dinosaur jr. gives me chills down my spine. in all fairness, they're not out of time.
 
TravisinFlorida said:
yes it is. beautiful ain't it? :D

seriously, dinosaur jr. gives me chills down my spine.
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I don't get how you can like it I'm afraid.

Surely there are enough fourteen-year-olds unintentionally making a terrible racket like that in the world already?

I guess I just don't 'understand'...

I mean - it's not like I don't listen to odd music.
I like a-tonal stuff.
I listen to some of the more way-out Coltrane, John Cage, Harry Partch, etc etc...

This just sounds lazy to me.
Can they actually play properly - or is the gimmick that they can't?
What exactly does it 'say' to you? What's enjoyable about it?

I'm genuinly interested, as this is one band I just never got at all!

BTW - they are *very* out of time!
Listen to the drummer and the bass-player! They are in no way 'locked in' at all. TBH it would take some bass player to lock in with what they are tring to pass off as a drummer!
 
Codmate said:
I don't get how you can like it I'm afraid.

Surely there are enough fourteen-year-olds unintentionally making a terrible racket like that in the world already?

I guess I just don't 'understand'...

I mean - it's not like I don't listen to odd music.
I like a-tonal stuff.
I listen to some of the more way-out Coltrane, John Cage, Harry Partch, etc etc...

This just sounds lazy to me.
Can they actually play properly - or is the gimmick that they can't?
What exactly does it 'say' to you? What's enjoyable about it?

I'm genuinly interested, as this is one band I just never got at all!
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no gimmick needed. it's just raw emotion to my ears. i know where you're coming from though. the first time i heard them, i did'nt like them either. a guy told me that my guitar playing sounded like dinosaur jr. i responded with "dinosaur who?". i gave them a listen and thought it was the noisiest most fucked up thing i had ever heard. i was surfing the net one day and came across one of their songs and decided to give them another listen. BAMM! like a ton of fucking neon bricks.

maybe it had something to do with experimenting with drugs too. :D

either way, i feel both warm and fuzzy and like busting thru a whole when i hear J go off on guitar. i put him right up there with hendrix.
 
TravisinFlorida said:
no gimmick needed. it's just raw emotion to my ears. i know where you're coming from though. the first time i heard them, i did'nt like them either. a guy told me that my guitar playing sounded like dinosaur jr. i responded with "dinosaur who?". i gave them a listen and thought it was the noisiest most fucked up thing i had ever heard. i was surfing the net one day and came across one of their songs and decided to give them another listen. BAMM! like a ton of fucking neon bricks.

maybe it had something to do with experimenting with drugs too. :D

either way, i feel both warm and fuzzy and like busting thru a whole when i hear J go off on guitar. i put him right up there with hendrix.
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yeah the dino jr. shows have a rep of being a little loud, which might not be exactly the best way to hear them for the first time :)
"without a sound" is an awesome album and very well recorded* and so is the j.mascis and the fog album "more light"

*edit: though not in the typical slick kind of way :)
 
codmate have you not heard dino jr and are you stating all that on just one live song or what, are you mad, i didnt listen to the link but i know from previous work how brilliant this band is and especially J. M. get on to lime wire and download a few songs :start choppin; turnip farm; forget it, to name a few,
im sure you will be impressed
 
scrubs said:
I love it, although the tempo does change about 50 times during that performance. I don't recall if the album version was that variable. Murph was never a very good drummer, though. Better than me, but that's not saying much. :cool:
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My sense of timing must be crap then. I did'nt even notice. :D

I posted that video because I think it's a good display of J's guitar playing.

kojdogg said:
yeah the dino jr. shows have a rep of being a little loud, which might not be exactly the best way to hear them for the first time :)
"without a sound" is an awesome album and very well recorded* and so is the j.mascis and the fog album "more light"

*edit: though not in the typical slick kind of way :)
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actually koj, i really wish i heard heard them live for the first time. i've never seen them live but would love too.
 
but his singing/voice

is the worst ever

just my humble opinion



sounds even worse than me

(and that's bad)
 
raven46 said:
codmate have you not heard dino jr and are you stating all that on just one live song or what, are you mad, i didnt listen to the link but i know from previous work how brilliant this band is and especially J. M. get on to lime wire and download a few songs :start choppin; turnip farm; forget it, to name a few,
im sure you will be impressed
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I've heard them before - but not on record, just appearing live on various music shows, and I've always had the same reaction.

Completly mystified!

Ah well - maybe I'll seek out some recorded stuff and check it out. It just bothers me when I find music I don't understand, but others' rave about. This band bother me especially, as I think I have pretty varied taste and a liking for the unusual, atonal and screwed-up; yet this just leaves me cold.

Maybe I'm getting old :o

Soon I'll be saying things like "It's all just noise to me you know!" ;)
 
cannabis said:
but his singing/voice

is the worst ever

just my humble opinion



sounds even worse than me

(and that's bad)
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some say that same thing about hendrix, bob dylan, and neil young. looking at the whole musical picture, it is'nt an issue to me.
 
I am ambivalent about D Jr. Too many songs where the guitars sound like the $150 solid state amp i got with my first guitar that just had "clean", "blues", and "metal" buttons on it.

Daav
 
YES! Totally underrated.

A hugely underrated band who are admitted diciples of Dinosaur that I must recommend...

SWERVEDRIVER

One of my favorite bands in the world. Amazing guitars.
 
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