Uher 4200 any good?

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Hi.
I'm thinking about buying Uher report 4200 stereo. It would be my first r&r and I'm wondering is it any good.
It supposed to be in good condition, but i have little doubts about tape speed; 7 1/2 ips. As i have no r&r experience I don't know how much it matters.
Should I take it or leave it?
Thanks, Gennadij
 
What do you plan to do with it? They are quite nice field recorders, widely used for interviews and recording sounds outdoors. It's not the sort of thing you'd mix down to, though.

Bear in mind that many of them are 2-head machines, I think only the "Monitor" series are 3-head. This is important if you intend to use it for a tape delay or suchlike.
 
You're right, it only has 2 heads, I thought it has 3. No tape-delay then.
I was thinking mostly fx use, maybe basstrack or perc sometimes.
 
JP's right about the 3 head thing. So no good for tape delay. How much are they asking for it just out of interest?
 
It's 45 euros at this moment, net-auction here in finland.
 
Cheap enough if it goes for around that I guess. Uher's an okay brand from the little experience I've had with Uher products (mostly mikes). Being a two head it's not much use as an FX machine in my view. And being 7 1/2 ips it might be a bit hissy as a mix down deck with no NR (mind you I've been doing some stuff on some of my decks at 7 1/2 without NR and I don't mind it at all). 7 1/2's okay for tape echo. It's the speed I use the most when I'm using one of my machines for that.

If you're looking for portable reel to reels then Nagra's are the go - III's, IV's or 4.2's. They're expensive though and most are mono. But they're three head with 3 3/4, 7 1/2 and 15 ips with dual mic input and line in. And phones and line out as well. So they can do the tape echo thing easily. But no use for mixdown as they're not stereo. Maybe $US500 these days though. A full stereo Nagra 4 might be closer to $US2,000 if you can find one.

Yesterday I saw a stereo Sony portable reel go here for $AU150 on eBay. It's not a machine I'd seen before but it looked quite capable. I don't know what tape speeds it could do nor whether it was a two or three head machine.

I suppose in the end, knowing it's limitations, you could always just bid to where your comfortable with on the Uher and if you win it you can buy a bit of new tape, have a fiddle and see what it's capable of.

More flexible options are likely to be more than 45 Euros and more likely your box type two track 1/4" reel machines (Tascam, Otari, Revox, Studer, etc). Multi-speed, vari-speed and three head capability adds a lot to their usability and that's not the Uher from what you and JP have said.

You never know your luck if you keep looking, researching and waiting. We've probably all scored some bargans in the past in reel to reel land.

:)
 
Good advises, thanks.
I think I'm gonna let it go, especially if prise goes any higher.
 
I have a Uher 4200 report Stereo that I bought second-hand (of course) in 1979 or so. It has been sitting around and then I when I wanted to use it again I discovered I had thrown away all my 5" tapes - I used to have boxes of them. They are impossible to buy anymore but luckily I work with a guy who reckoned he had a couple in his garage somewhere. And he did!

Now the reason I bought this in the first place was so that I could misuse it. I was a student of phonetics at the time and it was necessary to replay a word or a bit of a word over and over again. With the Uher, you can ignore the rewind/play switches as they are far too slow. You just leave the recorder on 'play' and turn the tape back by hand and then let it go. Sounds bad, but we used to do the same with our Nagra.

So I still have it, complete with leather case and carry strap and a Uher mike with an on/off loaded switch on it (spring-loaded to on, so you push to stop recording).

Now people look at it on display and I say 'one went for 51 quid on Ebay the other day'. It has pride of place next to a Royal manual typewriter.

When folks call it an old wreck I point out that at 7 1/2 ips it has pretty good frequency response, and that at the lowest speed it will record for hours. I also ask them to lift it as it comes from the day when quality meant mass, and this thing is quality, and heavy!
 
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