Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
But what I really want:
Even a used one....
Even a used one....
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
OK, serious question:
Has anyone used something like this to record bass?
Aguilar DB-924
Compact Design
2-band EQ
18 dB of Boost
Has anyone used something like this to record bass?
Aguilar DB-924
Compact Design
2-band EQ
18 dB of Boost
Garry Sharp
Lost Cause
On the aguilar pre, I had one installed in my Manson fretless. Huge low end, in fact if you put any boost on its virtually unusable. Very sweet mid.
I have to disagree on Ritter basses - I think they are unbelievably ugly. Haven't seen a single one I have liked to look at. Sorry...
The Hartke kickback is very bright, very hard tone with that ally speaker. I have a bottom of the range GK Backline 250 head - very clean sound, which I like. I just put it through a 210 cab for stage monitoring, 125 watts is more than enough for that, use the PA for FOH.
I have to disagree on Ritter basses - I think they are unbelievably ugly. Haven't seen a single one I have liked to look at. Sorry...
The Hartke kickback is very bright, very hard tone with that ally speaker. I have a bottom of the range GK Backline 250 head - very clean sound, which I like. I just put it through a 210 cab for stage monitoring, 125 watts is more than enough for that, use the PA for FOH.
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
Thanks for the info, Garry. I am only asking about the Aguillar because I saw one here in Japan for cheaper than zzounds, which in itself is a miracle. I may go pick it up and see what it can do....Garry Sharp said:
I've heard lots of good things about Hartke amps, but I've never played through one. I am still stashing nickels and dimes to buy that GK stack....
I just loved the novelty of the Ritter bass, I guess. I've heard they sound incredible, however...
Garry Sharp
Lost Cause
Yeah...have you seen how much Ritters cost?! 
But to bring this thread back to the topic....I expect they have very nice machine heads 
The Aguila pre has to be a good buy. I played through a Hartke 410 last summer - really cuts through, but doesn't suit my style.
If, hypotheticlly, we were talking about tuning basses, what's the best tuner? I have a Boss TU-2 which is excellent, I never feel comfortabe with the tuner in my Digitech BNX3.
But to bring this thread back to the topic....I expect they have very nice machine heads The Aguila pre has to be a good buy. I played through a Hartke 410 last summer - really cuts through, but doesn't suit my style.
If, hypotheticlly, we were talking about tuning basses, what's the best tuner? I have a Boss TU-2 which is excellent, I never feel comfortabe with the tuner in my Digitech BNX3.
Bassman Brad
New member
NICE SAVE, Garry!!!! And, I agree that we should at least try to keep this thread on topic, at least to some nominal degree.Garry Sharp said:But to bring this thread back to the topic....I expect they have very nice machine heads
The Boss TU-2 certainly wins the popularity contest. I've got one. And love it. LOT's of musicians that I know have one, and I don't know anyone who's dissatisfied with it.Garry Sharp said:
Honestly, though, since I usually play through my Boss GT-6B (floor pedal/preamp) these days, I find that I usually just use the tuner that is built into that. Through the combination of moving lights that run along the top of the switches and the meter that is in the LCD window, it's very easy to quickly see whether or not you are in tune. However, I don't really believe it is as accurate as the TU-2. It's just a convenience thing. For recording purposes, I'll still use the TU-2. While I do believe that the TU-2 might very well be the best one in it's price range, I'm not sure that it's absolutely the best one available. I simply don't have any experience with the more expensive ones. Do any of you guys use those rack mounted tuners? That would be pretty handy, I'd think. I also noticed that they've just came out with a new strobe tuner in pedal form. Anybody try that one?
Brad
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lpdeluxe
The Precision Bass Guy
Nice amps, but how do you tune them?
I almost bought a Peterson rackmount last year, but my computer decided it wasn't getting enough attention, so instead I used the cash I had to rebuild it (the only thing salvageable was the case and the floppy). Now I'm looking at a Peterson VS-II, which is about half the price of the rackmount version.
Twenty years ago I bought a book "Complete Guitar Repair" and the writer swore by Petersons for setup. Back then, a real strobe Peterson ran around $1500.
And, speaking of Peterson, has anyone heard the Peterson/Guiness Beer Bottle Organ? http://www.petersontuners.com/news/bbo/index.cfm Check out the demos. I would think you could build a tuner on the same principal.
I almost bought a Peterson rackmount last year, but my computer decided it wasn't getting enough attention, so instead I used the cash I had to rebuild it (the only thing salvageable was the case and the floppy). Now I'm looking at a Peterson VS-II, which is about half the price of the rackmount version.
Twenty years ago I bought a book "Complete Guitar Repair" and the writer swore by Petersons for setup. Back then, a real strobe Peterson ran around $1500.
And, speaking of Peterson, has anyone heard the Peterson/Guiness Beer Bottle Organ? http://www.petersontuners.com/news/bbo/index.cfm Check out the demos. I would think you could build a tuner on the same principal.
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noisedude
New member
I've used a TU-70 for the last four years, always spot-on but ever since buying it I wished I'd saved for the pedal one. 
It does do modal tunings, drop-d etc automatically for you which saves my brain breaking trying to compensate!!
It does do modal tunings, drop-d etc automatically for you which saves my brain breaking trying to compensate!!
Bassman Brad
New member
lpdeluxe
The Precision Bass Guy
I'm inclined to think Peterson has it figured out, as long as they have been the benchmark. They stuck with strobe tuners while the rest of the world was going electronic and it appears they have been able to combine the two approaches. I've been using a Sabine for several years, and it works pretty good, but I have always wanted a rackmount where someone could walk into my studio with their guitar, plug it in, and tune up. The advantage of the Sabine (and the Peterson) over lesser tuners is the ability to tune my open-C tuned electric, my E-9 tuned pedal steel, my open-E tuned Dobro, my open E-7 tuned lap steel, and my standard tuned bass, all with a single chromatic tuner...but over the years I have lost the battery cover to the Sabine, and, well, ya know how it is when ya see something new and shiny....Also, the Peterson VS-II would fit in the case. I'm not big on stomp boxes, since I always sit when I perform. Maybe I ought to just buy one of each...once I recover from getting the Ibanez 5-string and the B100R.
ez_willis
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Does anyone make a software strobe tuner, or is that not possible?
Garry Sharp
Lost Cause
Do you rely totally on the electronic tuner or do you find you need to do the last little tweak by ear?
Also I have heard it said that for set ups you can't do the intonation adjustments without a professional strobe type super expensive do dah do dah tuner. I did the old bridge slidey up and downy thing on my Fender Jazz with my TU-2 - does this make me a heathen? (And I used a credit card and not a set of auto feeler gauges to check the neck relief.)
Also I have heard it said that for set ups you can't do the intonation adjustments without a professional strobe type super expensive do dah do dah tuner. I did the old bridge slidey up and downy thing on my Fender Jazz with my TU-2 - does this make me a heathen? (And I used a credit card and not a set of auto feeler gauges to check the neck relief.)
lpdeluxe
The Precision Bass Guy
I have used my Sabine for intonation setups as long as I've had it. I have to say, also, that, no matter how carefully I tweak the tuning, some Paganinni is going to come along and "improve" it, and then play the rest of the evening out of tune, while reprimanding the rest of the band for not being in tune.
Bassman Brad
New member
Well, the Peterson Strobe pedal that I posted a picture of, and the VL-II that lpdeluxe mentioned, are both software based strobe tuners. They've replicated the design of their original strobe tuners using computer chips. So, it's definitely possible. I assume that you're talking about something like a VST plug-in, though. Don't know if anybody does that. Don't know if they legally could, even. It's possible that Peterson owns the rights to the technology.ez_willis said:
It seems to me like it would be fairly complex to design something like this. A spectrum analyzer shows how loud the different frequencies are in a given signal. A strobe tuner, on the other hand, breaks a signal down into it's constituent partials (or harmonics) and tells you if each one is in tune or not.
This is why strobe tuners are recommended for set-up jobs, by the way. You can certainly use something like the Boss TU-2 to set the harmonics at the 12th fret to be in tune with the fundamental of the open string. This is certainly "good enough for rock and roll." A strobe tuner would tell you how close you are to having ALL of the harmonics in tune with each other.
Brad
Garry Sharp
Lost Cause
Brad - thanks for that last post, that was new to me. But....
How important is tuning anyway? What I mean is, for example, I was a huge fan of the Talking Heads, but David B always sang a quarter tone flat. Didn't seem to matter, their Stop Making Sense DVD is one of the greatest live DVD's I've seen. But he played more recently, post Heads, at the Union Chapel, in Islington where I live, and watching that show on TV last night, where he had a string section, his singing was painful to listen to, even though the same voice as Talking Heads.
Keith Richards is always out of tune. Reference the joke earlier in this (entertainingly long
) thread about two fretless bassists - how in tune is an orchestra? I used to play the trombone as a teenager and I dread to think....but we played some quite big festivals and it never seemed to matter 
(PS - talk about milking - should we take up dairy fariming)
How important is tuning anyway? What I mean is, for example, I was a huge fan of the Talking Heads, but David B always sang a quarter tone flat. Didn't seem to matter, their Stop Making Sense DVD is one of the greatest live DVD's I've seen. But he played more recently, post Heads, at the Union Chapel, in Islington where I live, and watching that show on TV last night, where he had a string section, his singing was painful to listen to, even though the same voice as Talking Heads.
Keith Richards is always out of tune. Reference the joke earlier in this (entertainingly long
) thread about two fretless bassists - how in tune is an orchestra? I used to play the trombone as a teenager and I dread to think....but we played some quite big festivals and it never seemed to matter (PS - talk about milking - should we take up dairy fariming
)
mattamatta
New member
We're never going to make it to 100.
I've yet to meet a bass player who could read.
HAHAHA! just kidding.
I've yet to meet a bass player who could read.
HAHAHA! just kidding.
lbanks
Banned
11 string. I heard rumors of a 21 string.....Rokket said:Is that 11 or 12 strings? It's hard to tell from the pic. Looks cool but probably waaaaay beyond my capabilities. Unless someone wants to give me one to learn on...
lbanks
Banned
Stay away from combos....Rokket said:
lbanks
Banned
The learning curve's a bit steep, but excellent product.Bassman Brad said:
Rokket
Trailing Behind Again
I only have the cheap but mostly reliable Korg GA-20.... It's got separate guitar and bass scales on it. You can set it for auto or manual tuning, but you can't do any alternate tunings with it.