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EADG... I think.Michael Jones said:I just wanted to know what the open string tuning of a 4 string bass was.![]()
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EADG... I think.Michael Jones said:I just wanted to know what the open string tuning of a 4 string bass was.![]()
Now I know!![]()
Oh man!lbanks said:EADG... I think.
You mean lower.... like on the bottom... or lower like in pitch?crazydoc said:Well, ya know those lower four strings on a guitar...
Hey I'd like to know that too!Michael Jones said:You mean lower.... like on the bottom... or lower like in pitch?![]()
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lbanks said:(BAD JOKE ALERT)
Speaking of pitch, I was at a music store, where they had got in a Johnson 6 string. Not to say anything bad about Johnson, I wasn't interested. So the saleman asked me to hold it while he searched for a cord, then came back and played an annoying slap riff at me. Why did he think a slap riff is going to make me a want his Johnson?
Owww. That made my head hurt...lbanks said:(BAD JOKE ALERT)
Speaking of pitch, I was at a music store, where they had got in a Johnson 6 string. Not to say anything bad about Johnson, I wasn't interested. So the saleman asked me to hold it while he searched for a cord, then came back and played an annoying slap riff at me. Why did he think a slap riff is going to make me a want his Johnson?
Lower, as in fatter.Michael Jones said:You mean lower.... like on the bottom... or lower like in pitch?![]()
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Bassman Brad said:that the reliance on electronic tuners has messed up your ability to tune by ear? I noticed this had happened when I started to study jazz a few years ago. Up until that time, I always tuned by just plugging into a tuner. Now, all of a sudden, I had to tune to a real acoustic piano. And, much to my surprise, I couldn't hardly do it!!! I had relied on electronic tuners for so many years, that my ability to discern fine differences in pitch (and the beats that two slightly different pitches will produce) had almost disappeared. I've since gotten this skill back (mostly), but I still like to get to the rehearsal hall earlier than everyone else so that I can tune my bass, before other people get there and start doodling around on their instruments. This extra noise seems to throw me off quite a bit, whereas I don't remember that being the case many years ago.
In a similar manner, I used to be very good at spelling, but after relying on the "spell-check" function in word processors for many years, my spelling skills have deteriorated drastically.
Has this happened to anybody else?
Brad
If you can hear the difference in pitch between different tuners, then you have a very, very good ear for pitch, indeed.timmerman said:I have noticed that all tuners give a slightly different pitch....
Eddie
It was purple and sticky, with a lot of fingerprints on it; I think he had his johnson out for everyone to hold.scrubs said:You were holding his johnson???![]()
If he can tell the difference in pitch in tuners, what the hell is he doing playing bass? He needs to take up autoharp.Bassman Brad said:If you can hear the difference in pitch between different tuners, then you have a very, very good ear for pitch, indeed.
In fact, I think that we now have a new, reference-standard answer to the age old question, "How do you tune a bass?"
The answer: Let Eddie do it!!!!![]()
Brad
In a perfect world, yes. But tuners are different - the same way you can't cut two things to the exact same length (microscopically speaking), so two tuners won't measure the exact same pitch due to differences in components and construction. One might measure 41.0000 Hz as 41.003, and the another 40.998 (and I don't even know if they're that close - I doubt it.) So if you tune to the same nominal frequency on different tuners, you can end up with two different tunings.ez_willis said:Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't, for example, 41Hz(E string) on one tuner have the exact same pitch as 41Hz on a different tuner?
I've noticed this amount of play in an electronic tuner, but usually it works the other way for me. A note that was slightly OUT OF TUNE one second, will suddenly become perfectly IN TUNE a moment later, even if you haven't touched the bass. It's as if the tuner changed it's mind and said, "Aw heck, that's close enough." So it gives you a free pass. I've noticed that this "capture range" seems to be engineered into most electronic tuners.crazydoc said:Plus, the few tuners I have used seem to have a degree of hysteresis or play in them also, as once the needle, light or reading is pegged, you can still tweak the string a little without changing the reading.
crazydoc said:So if you tune to the same nominal frequency on different tuners, you can end up with two different tunings.
I can agree with this. I have a Korg tuner and a cheap one that came as part of a starter kit with this Yamaha strat copy I bought when I was seriously "jonesing" to play something (all my guitars and amps were in storage). I tuned my acoustic with the Korg and the strat copy with the tuner it came with. They were not in tune with each other. I retuned the strat with the Korg tuner and everything was fine. I've tuned both guitars with the cheap tuner and had no problems with them either. My hearing is shot from 20 years in the Navy (4 of them as a gun captain), so I don't trust my ear tuning anymore. I always double check with a tuner before I record.crazydoc said:In a perfect world, yes. But tuners are different - the same way you can't cut two things to the exact same length (microscopically speaking), so two tuners won't measure the exact same pitch due to differences in components and construction. One might measure 41.0000 Hz as 41.003, and the another 40.998 (and I don't even know if they're that close - I doubt it.) So if you tune to the same nominal frequency on different tuners, you can end up with two different tunings.
timmerman is saying he can hear this, which is certainly possible if they are different enough.
Plus, the few tuners I have used seem to have a degree of hysteresis or play in them also, as once the needle, light or reading is pegged, you can still tweak the string a little without changing the reading.