tube mics for drum overheads?

[mikedubb78]

Hello, i'm new here! anyway, I was wondering if you guys could give me some advice.
I only have two xlr inputs to work with. Looking to use 1overhead and i kick mic. I got my kick mic already...can someone recommend me an overhead under or at 300dollars?
I was looking at tube mics like the nady 1050/ mxl v67t/mxl v77 etc for use..anybody who owns this mic-did you guys ever use these mics (with the tube upgrade or not) with good results on overheads? I was using a SP b1 for overheads...

Any help is much appreciated!

Mahalo and aloha from Hawaii!
Mike

 

[Minion]

You know you could pick up a cheap 8 CH mixer which would greatly increase the mics you can use on the Drums, When I first started recording I only had 4 inputs but I had 8 Drum mics so I used a Mixer to mic all of the drum mics into a stereo signal into my Delta 44, it works pretty good you just have to take a bit of time to get the mix right.....

If you don"t want to go this route then I suggest that you use a Spaced Pair of Condensers ,One hanging on either side of the Kit, and Pan the right mic right and the left mic left which will help give you a stereo image of the drums, I have seen a lot of poeple record like this....

Just a thought....

 

[mikedubb78]

thanks for the reply minion! could you do your method using a line 6 toneport ux2? that's what i'm using now...i'm using it just for ideas and such..plus i'm a student i don't really have that much money..i was trying to go for something as simple as possible, thus the idea of 1 overhead and i kick mic..I appreciate your reply

if i were to use just a stereo pair, would it pick up the kick enough? i wanted a kick mic because i play alot of kick patterns (dbl bass) and i need the clarity of the bass drum to come through.

I'm really curious about those mxl/ nady tube mics....

 

[elementary]

You might be able to get a good sound by buying another B1 and using 2 B1S in a recorderman/Glyn Johns set up ( see this video for how to do it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiFOD1EeKhQ ). This usually gives you a pretty balanced sound. Record the overheads with your 2 XLRs to a stereo track in your DAW, then copy this track into another track, take out all the high end and mids, boost the low end drastically so that the main sound noticeable is the boom of the kick and then use this boom to trigger a kick sample using the drumtrig free vst, which you can get here - http://www.stormrecordingstudio.co.uk/


So long as you can EQ the overheads in such a way as to get the kick to be the loudest sound, that should work

You may have to move the sampled kicks around a little, or paste in some that don't get picked up, but It works in theory!

 

[mikedubb78]

wow, thats a cool idea elementary! can i use drumagog with that method as well?

 

[elementary]

Yeh, it'll probably be easier too, doesn't it have some kind of frequency dependent triggering control?

If it works, try doing the same with the snare

Let me know if it works too, might be handy!

 

[mikedubb78]

yup it works..it sounds pretty good-it works pretty well for the snare (in my case anyway) if you boost the 300,500,and 630k frequencies..i'll admit though that this might not be something i'll want to do if i have intricate drum parts..it sounds great when its a simple beat...i dunno, heh..but yeah very handy!

soo....tube condensors for overheads?? yay or nay? what? mxl v76t?? hahahahah!

wow, yeah i just saw that freq. analyzer thing on drumagog..gonna go try it now!