Tube Factory in Russia-troubling news

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Can you just cut and paste it??? Thanks...
 
It is a lengthy article. The NYT is an excellent newspaper, so use this as an opportunity to broaden your horizons a bit. Registration takes about 15 seconds.
 
guttapercha said:
It is a lengthy article. The NYT is an excellent newspaper, so use this as an opportunity to broaden your horizons a bit. Registration takes about 15 seconds.

And cutting and pasting takes all of 2 seconds.

Fuck the New York Times.
 
It is a lengthy article. The NYT is an excellent newspaper, so use this as an opportunity to broaden your horizons a bit. Registration takes about 15 seconds.
The NYT is one of the most liberal biased news sources in the country.
I don't know if you actually have info about a Russion tube factory, or just want to get email addresses in the NYT Spam Machine...

Thanks for nothing..... :confused:
 
Well, I'll synopsize - Sovtek is being bullied into going out of business.

Turning this thread in a political direction is about the most moronic thing I could have imagined would happen. I thought that my fellow muscians might appreciate this link because it is directly pertinent to what we do.

I did not cut/paste the article because it is copyrighted.
 
guttapercha said:
Well, I'll synopsize - Sovtek is being bullied into going out of business.

Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later. Maybe not out of those circumstances, but still.....it dead technology to 99.9999 percent of the world and a few guitar amps do not make for healthy marketplace.
 
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Liberal ass panty waist New York Times said:
SARATOV, Russia — Mike Matthews, a sound-effects designer and one-time promoter of Jimi Hendrix, bought an unusual Russian factory making vacuum tubes for guitar amplifiers. Now he has encountered a problem increasingly common here: someone is trying to steal his company.

Sharp-elbowed personalities in Russia's business world are threatening this factory in a case that features accusations of bribery and dark hints of involvement by the agency that used to be the K.G.B.

Though similar to hundreds of such disputes across Russia, this one is resonating around the world, particularly in circles of musicians and fans of high-end audio equipment.

Russia is one of only three countries still making vacuum tubes for use in reproducing music, an aging technology that nonetheless "warms up" the sound of electronic music in audio equipment.

"It's rock 'n' roll versus the mob," Mr. Matthews, 64, said in a telephone interview from New York, where he manages his business distributing the Russian vacuum tubes. "I will not give in to racketeers."

Yet the hostile takeover under way here is not strictly mob-related. It is a dispute peculiar to a country where property rights — whether for large oil companies, car dealerships or this midsize factory — seem always open to renegotiation. It provides a view of the wobbly understanding of ownership that still prevails.

In Russia's early transition days, amid the collapse of authority and resulting lawlessness, organized crime groups wielded great influence. Teams of armed thugs used to carry out takeovers, arriving at a businessman's door with little to back them up but the threat of violence, even murder. Indeed, contract murders reached a frequency of more than one a day in the mid-1990's.

Later, law enforcement, from the tax police to special forces units, played a role in forcing transfers of property in the scramble for assets of the former Soviet state.

In what became known as "masky shows," police officers, their faces often hidden behind ski masks, swarmed into a business to intimidate employees and force concessions from owners. The headquarters of the Yukos oil company, for example, were the scene of a series of high-profile masky shows. .

Now, the trend in business crime in Russia is decidedly white-collar — with the faking of documents, hiring of lawyers or payoff of judges — but no less insidious, Mr. Matthews and other business owners say.

In a puzzling case in Moscow in April, for example, thieves stole a shipping container with thousands of files on company registrations from the yard of a tax inspectorate office, using a crane and a flatbed truck.

"It cannot be excluded that so-called independent raiders, those who seize others' businesses, showed an interest in the tax documents," an article in Gazeta reported.

The article suggested the theft was a coup by corporate raiders who intended to use the papers much as identity thieves in the United States turn documents rifled from trash cans into profits through fraudulent credit card operations. In this type of crime, however, entire companies are at stake.

The tax authorities act as a registrar for small businesses. With the files gone, ownership is anybody's guess, the newspaper reported. Another common tactic of the new takeover artists is faking sale agreements for company shares and then voting out the legitimate management. Tracking down the true owner can be impossible if the authorities have been bribed — or the original papers are mysteriously missing.

The problem has become so pervasive among small and medium-size businesses that it has been discussed in the Parliament, where a committee on state security addressed the issue and cited more than 1,400 cases of fraudulent takeovers in 2005.

Across Russia, the Interior Ministry has opened investigations into the theft of 346 enterprises.

"Dozens of major deals for the purchase and sale of companies take place in Russia every month," Yuri Alekseyev, a chief ministry investigator, was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency. "The process is ever more frequently accompanied by gross violations of the law."

"Those seizing enterprises are usually not interested in production, and just steal or sell the most liquid assets, in the first place real estate," he added.

Foreigners are not immune. Recently, the Canadian owners of the Aerostar Hotel and the French owners of an auto dealership in Moscow were maneuvered out of their businesses.

Here in Saratov, a river town on the rolling southern steppe, the battle began last autumn when Mr. Matthews received a letter with an offer. For $400,000, a company called Russian Business Estates, or R.B.E., would buy Mr. Matthews's 930-employee factory, called ExpoPul, with a turnover of $600,000 or so a month. Mr. Matthews quickly refused.

Next, a letter arrived warning that the factory would have troubles with its electricity; in March, the power went off. Intruders then came and used jackhammers to raise dust that entered the factory's clean rooms. Strange young men in leather jackets loitered outside the factory gate.

Mr. Matthews, a legend among guitarists as the inventor of the Big Muff guitar pedal, rallied makers of musical equipment who rely on tubes from Russia and promised a fight.

R.B.E.'s director in Saratov, Vitaly V. Borin, said he wanted to buy Mr. Matthews's factory for the building it occupies and then sell it to an unidentified investor. He acknowledged that his company was pressuring Mr. Matthews, but he said it was using only legal tactics. If Mr. Matthews does not agree to sell, Mr. Borin said in an interview, the factory might run afoul of national security rules.

"We have instructions of the F.S.B, where it is written in black and white that a military factory cannot exist beside a company with foreign capital," he said, referring to the Federal Security Service, a successor to the K.G.B. Just near ExpoPul is a factory that makes electronic components for military hardware.

"The F.S.B. hasn't gotten involved only because we haven't gotten them involved," he said. Writing a letter to Moscow would be all he needed to shut the factory, Mr. Borin said, as he pretended to write a letter on a napkin.

For Mr. Matthews, more is at stake than property.

In the hulking pile of brick wrapped in pipes and smokestacks that is the building, most of the employees are women. Dressed in blue robes and hair nets, they join together delicate bundles of wire, wafers of rare metal and glass bulbs with fingers trained by years of work.

"No man would want to make a tube," Lyudmila V. Afanasieva, 54, said, nimbly sliding wires into a glass cylinder. She worked on the same tube model when it went into nuclear submarines that prowled off the coast of the United States.

ExpoPul makes two-thirds of the world's vacuum tubes used for music. Outside the old Communist bloc, the technology nearly became extinct. Vacuum tubes are made on an industrial scale only in China, Russia and Slovakia.

Tuned in to the music industry's needs, Mr. Matthews increased sales to 170,000 tubes a month in 2005, from 40,000 in 1999. The company has more than doubled its work force. It sells to Fender Musical Instruments, a maker of guitar amplifiers based in Scottsdale, Ariz., and the Japanese keyboard maker Korg.

While most of the Soviet electronics industry has disappeared, rendered obsolete by Japanese makers and Silicon Valley, ExpoPul, which opened in 1953, is thriving. It is a rare example of a Soviet-era factory that became a success without painful reforms. Hidden in this provincial town, its 1950's vintage technology survived long enough to become a worldwide hit.

If the tube factory dies, so will the future of a rock 'n' roll sound dating back half a century, the rich grumble of a guitar tube amplifier — think of Jimi Hendrix's version of "The Star-Spangled Banner" — that musicians say cannot be replicated with modern technology.

"It's nice and sweet and just pleasing sounding," Peter Stroud, the guitarist for Sheryl Crow, said in a telephone interview from Atlanta. "It's a smooth, crunchy distortion that just sounds good. It just feels good to play on a tube amp."

He added: "It would be a catastrophe for the music industry if something happened to that plant."

Its a lot about Russian a little about tubes.
 
yea, but seriously...come on now...if that factory was to close down, the demand alone for tubes in amplifiers and the such would warrant the opening of a new facility elsewhere
 
Ironklad Audio said:
yea, but seriously...come on now...if that factory was to close down, the demand alone for tubes in amplifiers and the such would warrant the opening of a new facility elsewhere


I don't think so. There are still a couple other factories. They would simply absorb the demand and increase production. The cost of an upstart would be too great. This isn't a printshop or something....this is an intricate process with dedicated machines that you don't just go to blablabla.com to order a new machine from.
 
Outlaws said:
I don't think so. There are still a couple other factories. They would simply absorb the demand and increase production. The cost of an upstart would be too great. This isn't a printshop or something....this is an intricate process with dedicated machines that you don't just go to blablabla.com to order a new machine from.
I don't know. Those guys who'll spend a couple of grand on a pair of speaker wires would spend how much on an audio amp or preamp built around some hyped tubes. With the absurd markups you can get from those markets, you could give guitar amp tubes away.

Who makes Groove Tubes?
 
I don't think so. There are still a couple other factories. They would simply absorb the demand and increase production. The cost of an upstart would be too great. This isn't a printshop or something....this is an intricate process with dedicated machines that you don't just go to blablabla.com to order a new machine from.

yea, but what's to keep the sovtek factory from liquidating their equipment to another firm, who will stick it in a new building and get back to work? hell, i wouldn't be surprised if a chinese company came and ate up their capital.
 
I expect that if Sovtek goes out of business, at least in the short term (the next couple years) the price of tubes will skyrocket since existing manufacturers will likely not be able to fill the void overnight. There will also be premiums paid for certain tubes to the extent that there are quality differences between tube manufacturers -- I've never been that impressed with Chinese tubes, the Sovtek ones were somewhat better, so NOS Sovtek and Slovak tubes will likely get a lot more expensive. Regular NOS (Mullards, GE, RCA etc.) will really go out of sight. The vast majority of newer tube gear I have purchased in the last couple years has come with Sovtek tubes rather than Chinese, unless there was a "Mullard upgrade" or some such deal. Groove Tubes largely purchases its tubes from foreign factories and simply tests and matches them. I think their Mullard 12ax7 reissues are actually made in the US, but it is a pretty limited production and the tubes are @$22 each. Eventually, if prices get high enough, it may incent someone else to get into the business, but it might take awhile. There is the problem that Sovtek has a trained workforce that will be lost as well. In any event, if this comes to pass, I think tubes will get a lot more expensive for awhile before the price moderates. Not a pleasant thought.
 
China has to be getting better at it, I wouldn't be surprized if Ruby becomes the next mullard.
 
Back in the late 80's India was making RCA tubes, I had them in my Fender and when they died I replaced them with Sovtek, in my opinion the Indian tubes had a nicer sound.
 
What are tubes? Some glass and metal? Why in the hell are they so hard to make? I mean come on. They're fancy light bulbs. Why in the hell has'nt someone duplicated the old Mullards by now?
 
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