Trying to record my amp in the other room.

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Hi, I am trying to record my guitar amp in a different room but I want to play the actual guitar in my bedroom (my control room). I think there are a couple of ways to accomplish this but I was thinking of which might be the cheapest solution.

One: Buy a 50ft 1/4 guitar cable. On ebay it might not be that expensive but im at school so I cant check.

Are there any other ways? Come to think of it this might be the only way? Does anyone else do this?

Thanks,
Dave
 
DAS19 said:
Hi, I am trying to record my guitar amp in a different room but I want to play the actual guitar in my bedroom (my control room). I think there are a couple of ways to accomplish this but I was thinking of which might be the cheapest solution.

One: Buy a 50ft 1/4 guitar cable. On ebay it might not be that expensive but im at school so I cant check.

Are there any other ways? Come to think of it this might be the only way? Does anyone else do this?

Thanks,
Dave
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we put the amp head in the control room and sit and play there, and run a line from the head to the cabinet in the other room.
 
Why are you trying to do this? To get some isolation?

Check out http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=225360&highlight=iso+box
And
http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=224357&highlight=iso+box
Some stroies from me and others on building an isolation box that will allow you to record in isolation from your amp/speakers.

Assuming you want to stick the amp in one room and play in the other anyway, a long guitar cord might work, but i think at 50 ft you would probabaly lose some signal. A (passive electronics) guitar output is not very strong, your amp has a preamp stage to boost it to amplifiable levels in the first place, and even a well made guitar cable is probabaly going to cost you something in the signal at that distance, and also long unbalanced cables tend to be prone topicking up electronic interference, and added noise and such. You would probably want to go throguh a direct box or a guitar preamp, then send that signal through the long (balanced) chord, then to the amp. i am not sure if you would need to change the impedance of the signal before going into the amp inout ont he other end or not.

And then, if a long cord is possibly too expensive, i am not sure what other equipment options you might be able to swing to deal with your situation. Try explaining the purpose and actual distances etc a bit more and we might be able to give you a bit more to work with.

daav
 
brendandwyer said:
we put the amp head in the control room and sit and play there, and run a line from the head to the cabinet in the other room.
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While a long speaker cable will probably cost more than a long guitar cable, I like this idea. That way you can tweak the amp if you need to without walking back and forth.
 
brendandwyer said:
we put the amp head in the control room and sit and play there, and run a line from the head to the cabinet in the other room.
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Same here, makes the guitarists very comfortable. I use a 50ft speaker cable and notice no difference between that tone and the tone I had when the amp was connected to the speakers by a 2 foot cord.
 
MadAudio said:
While a long speaker cable will probably cost more than a long guitar cable, I like this idea. That way you can tweak the amp if you need to without walking back and forth.
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yes it is more expensive, but we make our own so it doesn't hurt like running to guitar mart and standing in line for 1/2 hour while the 12 year old reincarnation of Kurt Cobain attempts to learn "rape me" on an out of tune squire strat.

:)
 
We run into this a lot [like every session] at our studio so I talked to Jonathan Little at Littlelabs and we created the "STD" [Signal Transmission Device] so you can have no loss transmission of up to about 100ft.

I've found that using long [like 50 ft.] guitar cables messes with the high end [cable capacitance issue] which is why this unit became a necessary tool in our room.

They're a whopping $125- so its not like a major purchase but they have saved our ass on innumerable occasions.

Peace.
 
daav said:
You would probably want to go throguh a direct box or a guitar preamp, then send that signal through the long (balanced) chord, then to the amp. i am not sure if you would need to change the impedance of the signal before going into the amp inout ont he other end or not.
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Simply use a direct box on each end, with the second one in reverse(ie. the input of the 2nd box is actually the output to the amp).
I've used this to some success
 
Fletcher said:
We run into this a lot [like every session] at our studio so I talked to Jonathan Little at Littlelabs and we created the "STD" [Signal Transmission Device] so you can have no loss transmission of up to about 100ft.

I've found that using long [like 50 ft.] guitar cables messes with the high end [cable capacitance issue] which is why this unit became a necessary tool in our room.

They're a whopping $125- so its not like a major purchase but they have saved our ass on innumerable occasions.

Peace.
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Thats a great unit!
 
Fletcher said:
We run into this a lot [like every session] at our studio so I talked to Jonathan Little at Littlelabs and we created the "STD" [Signal Transmission Device] so you can have no loss transmission of up to about 100ft.

I've found that using long [like 50 ft.] guitar cables messes with the high end [cable capacitance issue] which is why this unit became a necessary tool in our room.

They're a whopping $125- so its not like a major purchase but they have saved our ass on innumerable occasions.

Peace.
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STD? hahahaha.
 
Fletcher says the STD is $125. Looks like $130 to me. Either way, it's a great idea. Consider it on my list.
For what it's worth, I built my amp isolation box using a large plywood shipping crate and a lot of carpeting and Auralex foam. The crate cost me $5 on ebay, but $35 to have it shipped. A couple of hole saws and cable clamps to permanently install power, mic, and instrument cables. It doesn't kill the amps audible output, but it attenuates the hell out of it. The STD looks like a no-brainer to go with that box. Thanks, Fletcher.-Richie
 
I read somewhere that you lose 1db of signal for every 6 feet of guitar cable. I played a gig with some touring label band a few months ago and the lead guitarist had an orange stack with like a 40 foot cable in front of it...I was laughing my ass off. Anyway, speaker cable works perfectly for this and also the 2 DI trick works perfectly up to like 1000 feet or something.
 
FALKEN said:
I read somewhere that you lose 1db of signal for every 6 feet of guitar cable. I played a gig with some touring label band a few months ago and the lead guitarist had an orange stack with like a 40 foot cable in front of it...I was laughing my ass off. Anyway, speaker cable works perfectly for this and also the 2 DI trick works perfectly up to like 1000 feet or something.
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lol hes probably not doing that bad :D he is in a touring label band right :D.

cheerio(thankstho)
dave
 
yeah; overly energetic pop/punk. not that hard to pull off IMO.
 
FALKEN said:
yeah; overly energetic pop/punk. not that hard to pull off IMO.
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nope, we played alongside bands like that for years. I had to think of new ways to sound like i liked them. So i started complementing their equipment so i wouldn't have to lie about their shit songs
 
brendandwyer said:
we put the amp head in the control room and sit and play there, and run a line from the head to the cabinet in the other room.
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Yeah thats a good way of doing it. Means you can tweak the amp and you ehar what us going to be recorded.

Eck
 
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