Triplets....

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ez_willis said:
I was incorrect in calling them triplets.

He knew what I was looking for.



Anyone can play that!
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Ah right. In that case have a listen to what Bonzo does at the end of Rock and Roll, probably more what you're after
 
OK, I didn't record the fill today, but definitely tomorrow!
 
Bulls Hit said:
Ah right. In that case have a listen to what Bonzo does at the end of Rock and Roll, probably more what you're after
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Yes! Exactly.


WTF are those called, anyways?
 
RezN8 said:
Many people ask me how to play "Bohnam triplets" so I show them this first:

right hand snare, left hand rack tom, right hand floor tom, bass drum

you can either count that as:
1 trip-let two

or

1-e-&-ah

Both are useful as fills, especially early hard rock/heavy metal.

Once you get that into muscle memory, then set the metronome at about 80bpm and play quarter notes on the bass drum:

1 2 3 4

Now add right hand on floor and left hand on rack tom

1 trip-let 2 3 4
BD RH LH


Repeat that 20x

Once those are tight, even and locked in with the metronome, then complete the exercise:


ll:1 trip-let 2 3 trip-let 4 :ll 20x

ll:1 trip-let 2 trip-let 3 4 :ll 20x

ll:1 trip-let 2 trip-let 3 trip-let 4 :ll 20x

ll:1 trip-let 2 trip-let 3 trip-let 4 trip-let :ll 20x

Get comfortable with that before speeding up. Once you've got that then try play quarter notes on the bass drum as fast as you can EVENLY and repeat the exercise.

I've taught a lot of people this way, and those who practice the exercise as written (AND with metronome) are the ones who get solid, thundering triplets. Those who ignore the exercise and try to play as fast as bohnam right away usually ended up sounding sloppy and uneven. Your choice.



If I remember correctly, the opening for "Over the Mountain" is actually quads. I'd play it this way:

Right Left Kick Kick

SN= snare
BD= bass drum
LT= small tom
FT= floor tom

SN SN BD BD FT LT BD BD FT LT BD BD SN SN BD BD

SN SN BD BD FT LT BD BD FT LT BD BD SN SN BD BD

SN SN BD BD FT LT BD BD FT LT BD BD

SN (Flam) SN (Flam)

A little easier with double bass... :cool:

Enjoy, Rez
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I feel like I should pay you for that. Seriously excellent chop builders in there.


Do you teach? If so, I recorded a click track that starts slow and increases the tempo slightly every 8 measures, with a 3 second(or so) break before the tempo change. Would that be beneficial for your students?
 
ez_willis said:
Hey Maud, can you text it out for me, like this-

right hand snare, left hand rack tom, right hand floor tom, bass drum etc...whatever it is.

Obviously just the pattern, once. :)

The floor tom and kick are confusing my brain.
Your drums sound fucking sweet though!
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Will do later today......
 
ez_willis said:
I feel like I should pay you for that. Seriously excellent chop builders in there.

Do you teach? If so, I recorded a click track that starts slow and increases the tempo slightly every 8 measures, with a 3 second(or so) break before the tempo change. Would that be beneficial for your students?
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Thanks EZ - no payment necessary- I'm just here for the rep points :D.

I don't teach but I should b/c I could teach you better than I could play it. :p

Just passing along stuff I learned from many great players over the years. That click track seems pretty helpful, maybe we can post it here so that other HomeRec.r's can use it.
Cheers, Rez
 
EZ..........I think what you're talking about is something Bonham does alot. Ian Paice also does it in the intro of "Pictures of Home".

It's (if you're a rightie) RIGHT LEFT KIK, repeat etc...It has a 1 2 3 feel to it.
 
RAMI said:
EZ..........I think what you're talking about is something Bonham does alot.
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Yes, exactly.

I have my kit set up right now to do drum tracks. I figured out how to do 'em from advice in this thread, and I swear it was like a light went off in my head, as far as drum fills. I didn't realize that the hands and feet work independantly of each other to finish a fill. It's lame, I know, but I've never had drum lessons, and I'm kind of just fumbling through it. I'm getting better though. :)
 
So were they triplets? Quadruplets?


Speaking of Led Zep's Rock and Roll, it pisses me off that I have yet to play with a drummer who knows how to count the fucker off.
 
EddieRay said:
Speaking of Led Zep's Rock and Roll, it pisses me off that I have yet to play with a drummer who knows how to count the fucker off.
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I agree. Being a drummer, I've yet to play with anyone who can come in at the right time. Probably because they're used to playing with drummers who didn't learn it right. :D
 
RAMI said:
I agree. Being a drummer, I've yet to play with anyone who can come in at the right time. Probably because they're used to playing with drummers who didn't learn it right. :D
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I even made a CD with me counting off the intro to the original song. It opened a few minds but only briefly. But the drummer has to count it off otherwise no one knows where the real "1" is.

Which reminds me, I did play with a drummer who, after hearing the CD, got it and we were to kick it off properly. But the guitars still waited til they understood what was going on. :mad:
 
The triplets as described rh,lh,foot, are pretty common.
A good excercise for triplet/duplet feel is to start a metronome with a 4/4
then do 1/4 notes so 1,2,3,4 then do 8th notes 1-8 then 8th trips so 1-12 then 16ths 1-16 then 16th trips so 1-24. do that with two stroke rolls.

so in measures of four you have rrll then rrllrrll then rrllrrllrrll then rrllrrllrrllrrll then rrllrrllrrllrrllrrllrrll. each of these should fall in the 4 beat measure you are listening to on the metronome.

You alternate the duplet and the triplet. once you have the feel of it down you can use the triplet fills without studdering when changing from the straight 8ths to the triplets. Then do the straight 8ths with your hands and the triplets with the 1 down 2 up method of rh,lh,foot. you can also ,if you have a double pedal alternate from duplet to triplet rolls with 2 down 2 up then 1 down 2 up and even 2 down 1 up.
 
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