groovejunkie
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man, this is really hard to listen - the voc is almost permanently out of tune! sorry, but he must really pructice a lot!
otherwise, I think the song has potential and the mix is well balanced to me.
harry
otherwise, I think the song has potential and the mix is well balanced to me.
harry
Kramer
Well-known member
The singer is singing in a different key than the one the song is played in.LOL.This vocal wont make the cut by any standards.
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sloop
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Not bad, needs work
Fix the vocals--better get in tune.
The clean guitar could come up a bit in the mix. The drums are a wimpy--needs more guts. I don't know what cymbals are being used but they are too much sizzle, not enough power, the toms and kick have no punch, the snare isn't too bad. The voice is a little dry for me, but I like reverb.
Fix the vocals--better get in tune.
The clean guitar could come up a bit in the mix. The drums are a wimpy--needs more guts. I don't know what cymbals are being used but they are too much sizzle, not enough power, the toms and kick have no punch, the snare isn't too bad. The voice is a little dry for me, but I like reverb.
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TripleM
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I didn't think the pitch on the vox were all that bad. I've heard worse. But I didn't hear some notes, particularly later in the song, that I think need to be fixed. OK listening further... it gets worse... It seems the singer is getting tired.
The guitars sound real strong. The distorted rhythm guit maybe a bit hyped in the midrange. But all in all a real good powerful sound.
That picked guitar part near the begining kind of covers the vocals a bit.
Double tracked vocals in the chorus would work well I think.
My thoughts.
The guitars sound real strong. The distorted rhythm guit maybe a bit hyped in the midrange. But all in all a real good powerful sound.
That picked guitar part near the begining kind of covers the vocals a bit.
Double tracked vocals in the chorus would work well I think.
My thoughts.
Pedullist
Stop it, I can't breathe
About the mix...Trip said it all.
And I like you, Tubedude...so it's really hard to say this but:
The vocals are hard to listen to....man. Especially later on in the song it's a whole different key!
And I like you, Tubedude...so it's really hard to say this but:
The vocals are hard to listen to....man. Especially later on in the song it's a whole different key!
tubedude
New member
I think the verses sound fine, but I think the chorus sounds off.
I beleive the guy has only been singing for a year or two, and I think he'll come around in the future. Like their drummer said in the other thread, a couple of them are only 17. Kinda hope he doesnt look here as I wouldnt want him to get discouraged in any way. Time could do it for him I think. I'm sure Andy will be around shortly though.
So, everyone is cool with everything but the vocals? I think overall it came out very well. Not much left on my end, except autotune maybe, and I cant seem to make that do anything except a kid-rock effect.
I do like the song very much, though, as I do the others. The first ones mix is different now, and I do like the guitar and drum sound a lot.
Paul
I beleive the guy has only been singing for a year or two, and I think he'll come around in the future. Like their drummer said in the other thread, a couple of them are only 17. Kinda hope he doesnt look here as I wouldnt want him to get discouraged in any way. Time could do it for him I think. I'm sure Andy will be around shortly though.
So, everyone is cool with everything but the vocals? I think overall it came out very well. Not much left on my end, except autotune maybe, and I cant seem to make that do anything except a kid-rock effect.
I do like the song very much, though, as I do the others. The first ones mix is different now, and I do like the guitar and drum sound a lot.
Paul
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transpire
New member
i'm here. he hasnt even been singing that long actually. verses sound good to me. i see where the choruses could use a lil work tho, but its alright.
i'm happy with it becuase i know were onlly gonna get better.
hey paul, drift away has pretty much taken over our town and the surrounding one. lol.
did you get my email? wew wanna get the cd today.
i'm happy with it becuase i know were onlly gonna get better.
hey paul, drift away has pretty much taken over our town and the surrounding one. lol.
did you get my email? wew wanna get the cd today.
Kramer
Well-known member
It could be a simple monitoring problem.Is he comfortable singing tracks with headphones?Sounds like he hasnt quite found the sweet spot with his monitoring yet.
mixmkr
we don't need rest!!
it sounds like a wall of sound (either good or bad....) when the distorted guitars rule over everything else in the mix. Hard to really pick out what the guitar player is actually doing, just kinda thrashing around in a drop tuning. The intro feedback wasn't user friendly.
Maybe a little less "thrash" would mix better.
the picked guitar song sections were better, but the guitars sounded like a jumble of three or so guitars kinda all playing a similar part. Again, kinda a mix issue as the guitar parts just kinda got rambled into one incohesive part. So..it ended up sounding like a heavily chorus'd guitar overdubbing, and overdubbing, but not tracked well together..
The vocals... sounded recorded in a different ambience than the rest of the music and didn't blend in, regardless of whether the performance was there or not.
I think this tune was about a heavy guitar tone attempt, and then after that, there are many issues to clear up and improve upon.
I guess what I am trying to say is...you record a couple of thrashing guitars, this is what you will get. But the mix and song performance needs a little creative finesse to make you want to listen to it for a 2nd time. As it is, one listen was enough. Nothing compelling to want to listen to it again... Either a steller mix, hot performances, great ambience, headphone fun...whatever..
For 17 year olds making this their first recording attempt, this is great. In comparision to what is "out there" and "their competition", this has been around the block many times.
Maybe a little less "thrash" would mix better.the picked guitar song sections were better, but the guitars sounded like a jumble of three or so guitars kinda all playing a similar part. Again, kinda a mix issue as the guitar parts just kinda got rambled into one incohesive part. So..it ended up sounding like a heavily chorus'd guitar overdubbing, and overdubbing, but not tracked well together..
The vocals... sounded recorded in a different ambience than the rest of the music and didn't blend in, regardless of whether the performance was there or not.
I think this tune was about a heavy guitar tone attempt, and then after that, there are many issues to clear up and improve upon.
I guess what I am trying to say is...you record a couple of thrashing guitars, this is what you will get. But the mix and song performance needs a little creative finesse to make you want to listen to it for a 2nd time. As it is, one listen was enough. Nothing compelling to want to listen to it again... Either a steller mix, hot performances, great ambience, headphone fun...whatever..
For 17 year olds making this their first recording attempt, this is great. In comparision to what is "out there" and "their competition", this has been around the block many times.
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TripleM
Well-known member
I'd hate to think I discouraged 17 year old kids. Please tell them to keep at it. If they're 17 and doing this level stuff, by all means keep it up.
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transpire
New member
guitar & bass player are 17
singer and me, the drummer are both 18
been playign with each other since november, but broke up in december and we didnt start back up around the end of may.
what you all are telling us is actually the stuff we want to know. we know some people will tlell us they like it just to be nice. alot of people are really digging "drift away" around here though.
we're also fairly young, and i've heard way worse stuff from bands 10 years older we are. i think, in about 2 years, all the kinks will be worked out, we'll be more in tune with what we can do, and simply be better.
call me conceited if you'd like, but for a bunch of kids that are still in high school, and two that just graduated, i think it sounds damn good.
mixmkr - are you saying you think we sound like alot of other bands? almost EVERYONE we've talked to said we had an original sound and they couldnt really tell who we sounded like. let us know who you think we sound like, we like to know that stuff too.
singer and me, the drummer are both 18
been playign with each other since november, but broke up in december and we didnt start back up around the end of may.
what you all are telling us is actually the stuff we want to know. we know some people will tlell us they like it just to be nice. alot of people are really digging "drift away" around here though.
we're also fairly young, and i've heard way worse stuff from bands 10 years older we are. i think, in about 2 years, all the kinks will be worked out, we'll be more in tune with what we can do, and simply be better.
call me conceited if you'd like, but for a bunch of kids that are still in high school, and two that just graduated, i think it sounds damn good.
mixmkr - are you saying you think we sound like alot of other bands? almost EVERYONE we've talked to said we had an original sound and they couldnt really tell who we sounded like. let us know who you think we sound like, we like to know that stuff too.
Guernica
Active member
Great for 17 indeed!!!
...Im not gonna go on about the vocal pitch issues.... whew! I know thats outta your control..... (like the drummers meter is at at 2:09
) Nice recording though.... Kinda Creed'ish maybe?
nice work tube.
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...Im not gonna go on about the vocal pitch issues.... whew! I know thats outta your control..... (like the drummers meter is at at 2:09
) Nice recording though.... Kinda Creed'ish maybe? nice work tube.
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mixmkr
we don't need rest!!
transpire said:
I can relate to having others thinking you have a unique style. As an old fart, I really don't hear it, honestly. But when I was your age, I'll be the first to admit that Deep Purple had THEIR own sound and that made them unique as compared to all the other rock bands around at the time. My parents thought they sounded like REO Speedwagon, Mountain, ...Even Led Zep
they all sounded alike....distorted guitars, solos, loud drums... (and you've probably never heard of those bands either!!)But for fear of REALLY sounding that old, I like that kind of music...(maybe that DOES make me old)!!
As far as who you sound like currently, I haven't a clue. I guess my point is you sound like all the other 17 year old bands I have heard... and I realize also that isn't a fair statement...or not probably true.
Also...watch the "head check'... as when I turned 21, I had the hottest, most bad-assed band around. We had NO competition. (or at least we all thought that). We were on the way to rock stardom. My kick ass flying V and double stack "proved it all"!! lol!! It's one thing to have confidence in yourself, and another to convince yourself of something too.
You guys are doing good. Keep up the work, and realize, just keeping a band together more than a year at your age is something in itself too. Playing music is a small part of keeping a GOOD band together...
Damn...I feel like someones father after saying that bullshit...!!
Guernica
Active member
mixmkr said:
....aint that the truth too. For the older guys: How many bands have you been in that coulda shoulda woulda.... ...if you'ld only stayed together another couple'a years.
Musicians..... ...all egomaniacle BASTARDS!!!
tubedude
New member
Re: Not bad, needs work
You must be monitoring on some Alesis M1's then, because on my end the drums sound snappy and punchy and very modern rock radio-ish, without overloading the mix too much. I can easily get more thickness into the snare and kick, at the expense of everything else. (This hasnt been mastered either). There has to be tradeoffs, but its probably as much a matter of personal opinon as anything. If you look back, one guys says the vocals were covered in the clean parts, another guy says the guitars shold be louder in the clean parts. There is no winning I guess.
It works for me, and it works for them. In a year maybe we'll retrack the vocals and have hits on our hands. You never know.
This IS pretty good stuff, really, quite sellable with some production. Reminds me of Matchbox 20 a little, in ways, and that CANT be too bad. $$$
If these guys are together 5 years from now they'll be making waves, at least locally.
WEll, on to the death metal band this weekend. Doing a full 9 song album with them, recording at a gym after hours, where the drummer works.
Peace!
sloop said:
You must be monitoring on some Alesis M1's then, because on my end the drums sound snappy and punchy and very modern rock radio-ish, without overloading the mix too much. I can easily get more thickness into the snare and kick, at the expense of everything else. (This hasnt been mastered either). There has to be tradeoffs, but its probably as much a matter of personal opinon as anything. If you look back, one guys says the vocals were covered in the clean parts, another guy says the guitars shold be louder in the clean parts. There is no winning I guess.
It works for me, and it works for them. In a year maybe we'll retrack the vocals and have hits on our hands. You never know.
This IS pretty good stuff, really, quite sellable with some production. Reminds me of Matchbox 20 a little, in ways, and that CANT be too bad. $$$
If these guys are together 5 years from now they'll be making waves, at least locally.
WEll, on to the death metal band this weekend. Doing a full 9 song album with them, recording at a gym after hours, where the drummer works.
Peace!
powderfinger
New member
i love the feedback at the beginning but it was a little harsh on the ear....maybe a little compression.......
very good rock mix......i'd give it even more drums
i would also agree that the vocals are a little pitchy at times......the band is nice and tight though
very good rock mix......i'd give it even more drums
i would also agree that the vocals are a little pitchy at times......the band is nice and tight though
tubedude
New member
You know, I almost redid the feedback myself, but didnt want to infrige... I personally would be offended.
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M.Brane
New member
Lots of intonation issues in here between the guitars & bass. Light guage strings + detuning + playing hard + high-gain distortion + chorus = pitch hell.
No wonder the singer is having a hard time staying on pitch. I would too trying to sing over this.
Suprised no one else here has mentioned this.
The song is good, performance is tight.
I thought the snare & kick could use a bit of body. They sound a tad weak/thin up against those guitars.
Overall the mix sounds pretty good though, tubedude.
No wonder the singer is having a hard time staying on pitch. I would too trying to sing over this.
Suprised no one else here has mentioned this.
The song is good, performance is tight.
I thought the snare & kick could use a bit of body. They sound a tad weak/thin up against those guitars.
Overall the mix sounds pretty good though, tubedude.
mixmkr
we don't need rest!!
Re: Re: Not bad, needs work
well sheez....why did you even post it then, honestly? If you think it "works for you and them" and that potentially just retracking vocals will give you a couple of "hits", it seems like all our opinions are really just a waste of time then.
Personally, I really don't see that way. Good (for 17 yr old kids) sure... Great... I don't think so. Pretty good for 'home' recording...yeah...sure... Great...no..I don't think so either.
Either that, or I am waaaay out of the loop...but I guess that won't be the first time
tubedude said:
well sheez....why did you even post it then, honestly? If you think it "works for you and them" and that potentially just retracking vocals will give you a couple of "hits", it seems like all our opinions are really just a waste of time then.
Personally, I really don't see that way. Good (for 17 yr old kids) sure... Great... I don't think so. Pretty good for 'home' recording...yeah...sure... Great...no..I don't think so either.
Either that, or I am waaaay out of the loop...but I guess that won't be the first time