tracks bleeding into each other

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Well I don't know what's going on. I am a newbie, just got an external soundcard after experiementing for a few weeks recording through the line in. Here is my problem. I have say a drum track recorded. I go in to record a guitar track. Guitar track is great, except, it also recorded my drum track to the guitar track. I have screwed up something in cakewalk (or with my soundcard, or my computer) where it is recording everything that is being played into my headphones while I record, instead of just what I am playing. I didn't have this problem until I got the new soundcard, but maybe when I was setting that up I screwed up something else.

Please help. Thanks.

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Open Windows Mixer (the speaker icon in your systray). Once open select Options -> Properties -> Recording -> OK. Look at what recording source you have selected (i.e., what's checked off). If you are connected to the Line In connection on your sound card, then Line In is what should be checked. It sounds like you have selected What U Hear.
 
Windows 2000

I am using Windows 2000 and I don't think the advice you gave me directly applies. Any Windows 2000 experts know how to fix this?
 
The question should be, what is your sound card? And, how are you monitoring the drums whilst recording the gitter? Then we can help you.
 
My soundcard is a Roland UA 100G. I am monitoring the drums while recording the guitar through headphones.

Thanks for any help you can provide.
 
So if you just arm a track for record, then play the drum track and not play the gitter, you re-record the drum track at full volume? Or is it at a much lesser volume?

I am not familiar with the Roland gear but does not sound like a sound card to me, sounds more like an external mixer. If that is true, then how are you routing the drum track back for monitoring? If your out from the sound card in the PC is going IN to a mixer channel and your headphones are connected to the mixer, then yes you will get bleed because the mixer is well, mixing!

I use an external mixer for monitoring but I route my monitoring path to the 'tape in' on the mixer, that does NOT get summed with the bus again, it just runs to the main outs. I use the AUX sends to give my sound card the input signal from the channels, and the AUX sends are post channel but pre main out. Does that make sense?

Let us know how you have your gear connected and perhaps that will shed the light for your issue.
 
Even if I am not playing and the track is armed, its recording all the other tracks at full volume.

I am not using an external mixer. I am playing a guitar through a preamp, into the Roland UA-100G, a USB external soundcard, which is hooked up via USB to my laptop computer. I am playing into the guitar/mic 1 audio input on the soundcard. The output is coming back through the soundcard into headphones plugged into the soundcard.

I understand the point you are getting at, and I might be able to play with some things, but I don't have time now, and would look forward to any other insight until I do.

The solution proposed earlier with just unchecking a box or whatever seemed to be exactly what the problem was. However I don't see this option in Win 2000.

Thanks.
 
Fikus - I don't use Win2000, but I find it hard to believe there is no mixer included.

Is there a systray (the area at the bottom right of your screen with icons in it)? If so, is there a speaker icon in it? If so, double click on it and follow my previous instructions.

If there is no speaker icon showing, you probably need to go into your Control Panel. Look for Sounds and Multimedia in the Control Panel and open it up. Then look for a checkbox for Show Volume Control on Taskbar. This should give you the speaker icon. From there, follow prior instructions.

It's also possble you got a mixer supplied with your sound card. Some sound cards come with their own "mixer" software (e.g., Delta, SB Live). In that case, you could probably open your sound card's mixer and look for what recording settings you have. I'm not familiar with the Roland USB, so it's difficult to give you any exact instructions.

BTW, do you also have an internal sound card in addition to the USB device?
 
I do have an internal soundcard as well. There must be a way I would have playback through that and just record through the external soundcard.

I do have the speaker in my system tray, but there doesn't seem to be the same options as Win 98.

I also have software that came with the soundcard that is the mixer. I will take a closer look at that.

Thanks.
 
Hi, just wondering if anyone has any ideas because I still don't.
 
I'm sorta new to Cakewalk (Pro Audio 9) but I'll take a stab. This may sound really elementary but are you sure you are listening to just the guitar track or could it be you are listening to the stereo bus? I'm sure you have already "solo'd" the guitar track. Have you muted the other tracks on every "screen"? If the unwanted drums are still heard after this then there's no doubt the problem was in the recording set up.

Keep in mind that for whatever the reason, Cakewalk defaults to playback/mixdown mode, not record mode. Seems backwards to me since record is done first. This means everything records to stereo bus unless you change it. I think what is happening is when you recorded the drums they went to stereo bus. Next when you recorded the guitar it recorded to stereo bus along with anything already there. Sounds wierd but bear with me. If this is what happened then I don't think you can separate them now. Sorry. You'll have to re-record the guitar track. This time make sure the drum tracks are muted in the record screen. You'll still hear them because they aren't muted in the playback screen.

I use Cakewalk with the Yamaha DSP Factory. Believe me, there is no more confusing or awkward setup in existence than these two together. I'm still on the learning curve with this setup. I experienced the same thing you are talking about after recording stereo tracks from a CD then adding lead vocal while listening to the stereo tracks. Best of luck to ya.

DD
 
Even windows 2k has the same 'windows mixer' controls as the other versions. We need to know if you have checked that mixer setup for all posible combinations of line inputs.

As asked, go to the windows mixer and check out the record area to see what is checked. and play with it as you are recording so you can see if anything causes what your getting to stop.

Bring the volumes down on anything your not using and uncheck anything as well that is not in use.

What happens if you use the line in of the internal sound card? Does it record what your playing back the same as with the USB?

More input may be required to help nail this down.
 
Checked my setup last night. I solved the problem by assigning my new "to be recorded" track to Bus 1. My other 2 prerecorded tracks were assigned to Stereo Bus. Like I said earlier, the default setup is for playback, not record, so everything is defaulted to Stereo Bus.

Good Luck,
DD
 
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