Track Advance Recording???

[SteveD]

Overheads

Close micing a drum kit can lead to sterilizing the sound, which can tend to sound unnatural. The overhead mics can bring the drums back to life by blending them back to a single kit, as well as giving the cymbals life and positioning them in the stereo field correctly.

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A classic move is also to boost 15KHz for a nice sheen to the cymbals.

(sonusman insert here) A great trick to try BEFORE you eq your overheads is to TRACK ADVANCE the overheads so that the snare hit has no delay between the snare track and the overheads. You would be surprised as to how much more beef this can add to the drum kit.

Question: Does anyone know how to TRACK ADVANCE the overheads as suggested by Sonusman in the article above?

As far as I know... there's no way to set a parameter for number of samples or amount of timed delay to actually RECORD this way in Sonar... right? The only way to do this is to drag the snare or overhead tracks into alignment after they are recorded.

Or am I missing something here?

Thanks.

SteveD
www.5adayclub.net/music/

 

[dachay2tnr]

AFAIK you are correct. Sonusman simply means to slide the recorded overhead track so the snare hit on that track is in alignment with the close mic'd snare.

I would use the Sonar "Slide" command to do this, and set the slide parameter to "tics."

This can't require much movement at all, since I assume you are only accomodating the delay caused by the different distances of the overhead mics versus the close mic. A couple of feet at the speed of sound??? Someone can probably do the calculation.

 

[SteveD]

AFAIK you are correct. Sonusman simply means to slide the recorded overhead track so the snare hit on that track is in alignment with the close mic'd snare.

I would use the Sonar "Slide" command to do this, and set the slide parameter to "tics."

This can't require much movement at all, since I assume you are only accomodating the delay caused by the different distances of the overhead mics versus the close mic. A couple of feet at the speed of sound??? Someone can probably do the calculation.

I was thinking the same thing (couple of feet... speed of sound...). I wonder if this can possibly make a difference. I tried a quick test just now on my laptop. Recorded some music through my sound card and slid one track over just a hair. Wow... most of the instruments just disappear from the phase cancellation!

I'll try this when I get home tonight on drum tracks.