Totally Clueless...

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I originally posted this on the newb server board, but thought maybe I might get more input here. I have decided to go with the DAW approach but i am not that skilled in computers and I am realy a total beginner.

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Hello all,
I am new to the forum and new to recording in general, but ready to learn. I have been playing guitar for years and just picked up the base. I have a band that I play with (two guitarists, one bassist, and a drummer). Three of us sing and I am mostly the rhythm guitar.
I have written several songs, some for the band, some for myself and I want to be able to record them. I also have several acoustic songs.
I have used cakewalk some and recorded directly to my soundblaster live card though the mic input on the comp for some acoustic stuff, but without a preamp the vocals blow and it sounds crappy. I basically just used this to practice riffs and set up song progressions, but I am ready to expand.
My equiptment is as follows... I play though a crate dx212 digital amp with tons of onboard effects, all controlled through a midi footswitch. We have a crate CPM8FX mixer / PA system with 8 inputs that the band plays through. I bought an STaudio DSP 2000 c-port 10 input sound card from a friend a while back but never got it working on my comp (I think because i didn't have dedicated monitors from this and it doesn't like rerouting back through your computer). I also recently bought a Dell 8600 laptop for my wife that I thought I could use.
My delimma is many fold. First, what computer to use? I can't use my Staudio input device with my laptop as it comes off it's own sound card. and my desktop is not an option due to location. Do I buy another desktop and dedicate it to my recording, or buy a new input device with firewire or usb and use my laptop? I was initially leaning towards the laptop but now maybe a dedicated desktop, I think I could get an acceptable comp for several hundred bucks and I have an extra video monitor already.
Next, I have to look at monitor speakers, and I have been looking at a LOT of posts about this. These have been quite helpful and I at least know what i need to go listen to and try out now.
Lastly, what else do I need? I just know I am going to be ther guy who starts stupidly and spends a lot of dough on stuff that I can't end up using so I thought I would beg for a little advice here.
Thanks so much for thaking the time to read this rather long winded post =) and thanks for any helpful insights!!
Gratefool1

By the way, I was hoping to spend $500-600 on the comp and the same on the monitors.

Thanks again all!!! :)
 
Hey, gratefool1.

I'd call these guys and see what they'd recommend for a PC to go with your soundcard.

In that monitor price range, I'd consider the Event TR6s or TR8s. The Yorkvilles are popular on this board, too.
 
gratefool1 said:
I was hoping to spend $500-600 on the comp...
Well, at that price point you will most likely have to roll your own.

Here are the components you will need to throw together-
  • Case. I have just built one PC with this case, and have ordered two more. Quiet, cool, and on sale. $20
  • Motherboard, processor (Athlon XP 2800+ retailed), and memory. Bundled and tested. I would recommend an ASUS A7N8X-VM/400 board with integrated video (you can buy an external video adapter later if you wish), 512MB of RAM on a single stick, and don't forget to have the vendor assemble and test the components for an additional $9. Well worth it. $279
  • CDRW/DVD and HDD. Grab a Lite-On and a Western Digital 80GB Ultra-ATA. $47 and $63 respectively.
  • Cables. The motherboard comes with all you need, but ignore them and spring for 2 of these. Use one to hook up the HDD on the primary IDE bus, and use the other to hook up the CDRW/DVD on the secondary IDE bus. $18
  • Keyboard and mouse. I have had good luck with this wireless Microsoft combo. $49
  • Monitor. Here is a nice Viewsonic for $153.

Total cost, $629 plus tax (in CA.) and shipping. Plug and play, rock and roll!!
 
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Wow

Wheelma.... that is about awesome! Thanks, I will look up all of those components when I get home tonight. Thanks all for the input, I really appreciate it ;)
 
Oh yeah...

I forgot to mention that I have a video monitor already. My budget is actually pretty flexible... I just don't want to go too far overboard as I am just getting started. If there is any other equiptment deemed "essential" or almost so :rolleyes: please let me know. Thanks again for such great responses!!
Gratefool1
 
Well, if you already have a video monitor, use the $150 and get the M-Audio Audiophile 2496.
 
When checking out monitors, make sure you at least look at the M-audio BX-8's. I just picked up a pair from Music123.com, and I love them. 479.99

Just a suggestion,
Mumbus
 
2nd that emotion. Mixing got easier with my BX8s (couldna gottn harder).
 
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