TelePaul
J to the R O C
I see alot of people with one rack tom and one floor tom. Why is this? And which Tom is usually sacrificed?
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psychowit
New member
it has to do with taste really.
I have a 1 up 2 down set up.
ie. 1 rack tom.
2 floor toms.
when I still set up my 5 piece Tama as a 4 piece, I sacrificed the smaller of my 2 rack toms.
I have a 1 up 2 down set up.
ie. 1 rack tom.
2 floor toms.
when I still set up my 5 piece Tama as a 4 piece, I sacrificed the smaller of my 2 rack toms.
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Greg_L
Banned
Strictly up to you.
I have 2 racks and 2 floor toms. Many people like their ride cymbal where the second rack tom would normally be. It's all just personal preference. There is no "rule" to any of it.
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dodgeaspen
New member
A few drummers used i rack tom back in the day and it worked fine for them.
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ermghoti
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EdWonbass
pull the goalie
I have just a one up one down set up in my studio. I suck at drums so too many toms would just confuse me. Putting the ride cymbal in place of the second tom is nice.
It's also one less close mic to set up, one less head to buy, and one less drum to tune.
It's also one less close mic to set up, one less head to buy, and one less drum to tune.
Rimshot
New member
^^This^^
I play a 6 piece kit some of the time because I play pieces which have a rolling tom pattern in place of a standard "ride". If you want to do a 16th note run for a measure. it sure is nice to have those four toms for the 1e&d on each drum. For some gigs, I bring a four piece kit and I play it out "old school". It doesn't make you a better drummer to have more or less toms and cymbals, it just gives you a different sound, and it is a matter of personal preference. I once watched Buddy Rich totally blow the audience away with a four piece kit, big ride, hats and a crash (he sat in on another drummer's kit).
Terry Bozio has recently been playing a kit that is just too big for him to control and I preferred his drumming on the smaller kit. Different strokes.
TelePaul
J to the R O C
Ah right, I don't think I'm good enough for it to be an issue TBH! I just hate the sound of my small rack tom.
I just hate the sound of my small rack tom.
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Greg_L
Banned
Ah right, I don't think I'm good enough for it to be an issue TBH!
What's wrong with it?
TelePaul
J to the R O C
Ah man, my drums are a POS! It sounds more like a cardboard box than the other two though...a bit too brittle or trebly too.
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RAMI
Guest
So, that's the one I'd sacrifice. Move your second tom over to where your first usually is.
disgruntled-inc
Detachable Member
I hate my small one too. It's a 10" maple (Keller) and it's a bitch to get in tune and work out the wired "boing" noise that it makes whenever the top and bottom heads aren't getting along. Maybe the depth to diameter ratio is bad (8" deep), but the larger toms are way easier to tune.
I currently have three rack (10", 12", and 14") and two floors (16" and 18") because I like the two inch spacing and prefer to tune to 4ths or 5ths, but I think my next drum kit will start at a 12" and I'll add a 13" in the middle as I really like having three rack toms.
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justadrummer
New member
i like to change my set-up from time to time.
I have a standard 5 piece tama kit with an added 10" tom.
I usually have the 10" on the rack and the 12" & 13" as my floor toms.
Lately I have put all three on the rack and brought out the 16" on the floor.
I think smaller toms are easier to tune!!
I have a standard 5 piece tama kit with an added 10" tom.
I usually have the 10" on the rack and the 12" & 13" as my floor toms.
Lately I have put all three on the rack and brought out the 16" on the floor.
I think smaller toms are easier to tune!!
Rimshot
New member
I'm afraid I'm not following you here, you say you bought a standard 5 piece Tama kit and you added a 10" tom and used your 12" and 13" as floor toms. It seems to me that you had a 4 piece Tama kit. Where did the 16" floor tom come from?
Also, don't you find the size gaps between your three rack toms and your 16" floor tom a bit jarring? I think that 10" and 12" on rack and then 14" and 16" on floor would give you a more cohesive sound. I once played a kit that had 10", 11", 12" 13" on rack and then 14", 15" and 16" on floor with a double 20" and 22" kick, but all of those drums made it far too complicated to set up and I wound up not using all of them, so I broke it up into two different kits, the six piece as described above with the 20" kick and then 11", 13" and 15" with the 22" kick. It makes the tone transitions smoother having a 2" difference between the toms.
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ermghoti
New member
12-13-16-22 was standard for a couple of decades.
Rimshot
New member
Okay, I didn't realize that. A couple of decades? Wow! It's a peculiar arrangement.
saads
Baka
I wonder how Terry Bozzio would explain his Tom set up.....
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RAMI
Guest
I wonder how Terry Bozzio would explain his Tom set up.....
I don't know, but I'm sure I'd be nodding off by the end of it.
Rimshot
New member
I don't know, but I'm sure I'd be nodding off by the end of it.
I think he is a very good drummer and I really liked his performance when he was doing the drums at a Led Zep tribute. Then I saw him give a performance on Long Island at Five Towns College with his entire set-up and I walked out at the intermission. It was sad. He had so many drums, that you could see the frustration and confusion in his playing. It was almost as if he was trying to show everyone and justify the size of his kit by using everything. What he gave up in the end was "music". He is a very musical drummer of exceptional skill and he can show that when he plays a more manageable kit.
saads
Baka
Maybe its just part of his 'showmanship' or something. I heard Portnoy on a 4 piece kit once, and i personally thought he sounded a lot better.