crosstudio
New member
the following cakewalk tip shows how to record dry but hear the effected recording in the monitors.
http://www.cakewalk.com/Tips/TechTipJuly02_1.asp
http://www.cakewalk.com/Tips/TechTipJuly02_1.asp
dachay2tnr
One Hit Wonder
Nooooooooooooooooo, crosstudio! The dreaded Input Monitoring.
Just for your info, ladies and gents, this feature will delay the "effected " sound equivalent to whatever your latency setting is. If your latency is above 5ms or so, you will hear the new input as a very annoying echo, and it will be impossible to sing/play in time with the prerecorded tracks.
cross, have you actually tried this? IMHO this is a great idea whose time has yet to come. We need better hardware before this particular trick is ready for prime time.
If you've got a state of the art system, a good sound card with WDM drivers, and your only using a couple of tracks, this might work. Otherwise please steer clear.
Sorry, cross. I've spent too much time telling people how to get rid of this problem. It just don't work for the average bear.
Just for your info, ladies and gents, this feature will delay the "effected " sound equivalent to whatever your latency setting is. If your latency is above 5ms or so, you will hear the new input as a very annoying echo, and it will be impossible to sing/play in time with the prerecorded tracks.
cross, have you actually tried this? IMHO this is a great idea whose time has yet to come. We need better hardware before this particular trick is ready for prime time.
If you've got a state of the art system, a good sound card with WDM drivers, and your only using a couple of tracks, this might work. Otherwise please steer clear.
Sorry, cross. I've spent too much time telling people how to get rid of this problem. It just don't work for the average bear.
crosstudio
New member
i haven't tried it and i don't really have a need for it. i just remember someone posting about the desire to do it, and ran across the article on cakewalk.com today.
part of the article warns the user that they must get the latency below 10ms or so in order for things to sound right.
one thing i thought about was the following (untried and untested solution):
knowing that your latency is 10ms (or worse) set the FX track to 100% wet so you only hear the effected sound coming back from the input monitoring.
as long as you only have your cable partially inserted into the channel INSERT or if you use the Direct Outs to record you'll be able to hear both the dry unaffected signal with the wet effected signal returned on a different channel on your mixer.
---again, the above is untested!
part of the article warns the user that they must get the latency below 10ms or so in order for things to sound right.
one thing i thought about was the following (untried and untested solution):
knowing that your latency is 10ms (or worse) set the FX track to 100% wet so you only hear the effected sound coming back from the input monitoring.
as long as you only have your cable partially inserted into the channel INSERT or if you use the Direct Outs to record you'll be able to hear both the dry unaffected signal with the wet effected signal returned on a different channel on your mixer.
---again, the above is untested!
moskus
The Creator of Æ, Ø and Å
I think Input Monitoring is GREAT, but as you say Dachay, the latency must be low. I've tested several settings, and if find that everything under 8 ms works for Input Monitoring (IMHO)
A couple of weeks ago, I bought the Audiotrak INCA88, and it's great! It has 8 ins and 8 out, and a little something that Audiotrak (or Ego Sys if you want) has named E-WDM -drivers. I can get the latency down to 1.3 ms, record 4 tracks using Input Monitoring and play back 12 at the same time (let's say you use 1.5 effects pr. track - one on some tracks and two on the others). If I rise the latency to 3.3 ms, I get more tracks than I can use. And all this for a card under 300$...
But if you use a Soundblaster card, the latency is WAY to high!
IF YOU HAVE A SOUNDBLASTER CARD*:
DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME
*or a card with no WDM-drivers
A couple of weeks ago, I bought the Audiotrak INCA88, and it's great! It has 8 ins and 8 out, and a little something that Audiotrak (or Ego Sys if you want) has named E-WDM -drivers. I can get the latency down to 1.3 ms, record 4 tracks using Input Monitoring and play back 12 at the same time (let's say you use 1.5 effects pr. track - one on some tracks and two on the others). If I rise the latency to 3.3 ms, I get more tracks than I can use. And all this for a card under 300$...
But if you use a Soundblaster card, the latency is WAY to high!
IF YOU HAVE A SOUNDBLASTER CARD*:
DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME
*or a card with no WDM-drivers
moskus
The Creator of Æ, Ø and Å
Hey! This sounds like a good idea! I'll give it a shot during the weekend and get back to you.crosstudio said: