Timing issues

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Hey, I'm new here, and I arrive with a question;

I've been recording on my computer with next to no problems for quite a while, but just recently an issue has come up, and that is when I play along to a previous recording/track/metronome, when I play it back on the computer, it's out of time.

It's not a latency issue, because even when I make sure the tracks start perfectly in time, by the end of the song they'll be out, the longer the song the further out they'll go.

My interface is a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro (hxxp://jp.creative.com/images/corporate/artwork/X-FiElitePro_pdt_hi.jpg), so the guitar is plugged into the box, which is connected to the sound card.

Does anyone have any idea what's going on? It does this in whatever program I choose to record.

Thanks
 
Make sure you are using the right ASIO driver.

That is very strange.
 
Farview said:
Make sure you are using the right ASIO driver.

That is very strange.
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Okay, now something even stranger has happened. I saw a different ASIO driver was set as default, so changed it to the Creative one, and now the Creative console doesn't work, and all my music is higher pitched!

I've fixed that by resetting the sound blaster settings, but I don't know if that's fixed the recording issue, I'll report back.
 
You need to make sure the sample rate for the session matches the sample rate that the soundcard is set to.
 
Farview said:
You need to make sure the sample rate for the session matches the sample rate that the soundcard is set to.
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This computer's getting worse and worse :mad:

Right, so I put the computer in "Audio Creation mode", run Cubase, and it notifies me that it's changed the sample rate. Now everything's higher pitched.

I reset all the settings and it changes again, and everything seems to be the right pitch. I run Cubase AGAIN, same message, and everything's high again.
 
It sounds like you have a 48k session and you recorded 44.1k files. Change the session to 44.1k.

Or, are you talking about all of the windows sounds playing back higher?
 
Farview said:
It sounds like you have a 48k session and you recorded 44.1k files. Change the session to 44.1k.

Or, are you talking about all of the windows sounds playing back higher?
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All windows sounds.

After my last post, I decided to reinstall Cubase and repair the sound card programs, then my computer decided it wanted to die instead.

I've reinstalled them both completely, and everything sounds okay. The sample rate is set at 48k, all my music sounds fine, everything seems to work, but I'm scared to open Cubase yet!

EDIT: Okay, so I tried Cubase and it changed the session and sound card both to 44.1k, making the audio sound weird, so I set them both to 48k and it sounds okay, but I haven't tried any recording yet.

I still think something's wrong though, I thought 44.1k is standard?
 
the windows sounds could be at 48k, or you could be used to hearing them at 48k.

This is one of the reasons why you want a real recording interface instead of the gaming, windows sound, soundblaster thing. You can have all your real audio go to the real interface and all the windows beeps and whistles go to the consumer card.

The problem isn't Cubase. You just need to set the session for the sample rate of the windows sounds. Or you could turn off the windows sounds or ignore them.
 
Farview said:
the windows sounds could be at 48k, or you could be used to hearing them at 48k.

This is one of the reasons why you want a real recording interface instead of the gaming, windows sound, soundblaster thing. You can have all your real audio go to the real interface and all the windows beeps and whistles go to the consumer card.

The problem isn't Cubase. You just need to set the session for the sample rate of the windows sounds. Or you could turn off the windows sounds or ignore them.
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It's not just the windows sounds, it's the music I play aswell. Even if the music's encoded at 44.1k, it only sounds right when the sound blaster is set at 48k.

Anyway, I think it's fixed. The audio sounds fine, and Cubase doesn't crash. I haven't tried recording yet, 2am is no time or that, but I'll try it tomorrow and see what happens! But for now, this seems to be fixed, but I have no idea if the first problem I had will be fixed or not!
 
cant remember exactly how to get there but there is a tab somewhere that says something to the effect of "use system timestamp" i'll bet yours is unticked... cant remember the particulars either but without this the prog cant resolve a conflict between two internal clocks...
 
dementedchord said:
cant remember exactly how to get there but there is a tab somewhere that says something to the effect of "use system timestamp" i'll bet yours is unticked... cant remember the particulars either but without this the prog cant resolve a conflict between two internal clocks...
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I don't know if it's because of that or because I reinstalled all the drivers, but everything appears to be working! Problem solved... For now!

EDIT

Right, it seems it's not solved.

Let me recap,

All my music is at 44.1k

My sound card is set at 48k

Everything sounds fine

I run Cubase, import some 44.1k samples into a 48k session, they are higher pitched

If I change the sample rate of the session (and therefore the sound card), all other Windows sounds/audio sounds wrong

How can I make everything sound the same!
 
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Your music is actually 48k, the file just thinks its at 44.1k. This has happened to me once or twice, but I can't remember how.

You need to change the files to 48k without resampling. You can do this in sound forge and wavelab.
 
Farview said:
Your music is actually 48k, the file just thinks its at 44.1k. This has happened to me once or twice, but I can't remember how.

You need to change the files to 48k without resampling. You can do this in sound forge and wavelab.
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It seems you're right!

When I import some music into a 48k Cubase session, it sounds fine.

So I guess when I import music, I'll just need to check the sample rate, and convert it if it needs it?

What about when I export the finished song from Cubase? It'll end up being 48k, is that going to be an issue for other computers?
 
filthandfury said:
It seems you're right!

When I import some music into a 48k Cubase session, it sounds fine.

So I guess when I import music, I'll just need to check the sample rate, and convert it if it needs it?

What about when I export the finished song from Cubase? It'll end up being 48k, is that going to be an issue for other computers?
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There is a preference setting that automatically resamples imported wav files to the session sample rate.

When you export the finished song, you can set it for whatever sample rate and bit depth you want. There are a bunch of settings on the pop-up that allows you to name the mix.
 
i think i remember reading somewhere that *all* soundblaster-type cards default to 48k?

you have used this setup before with no problems? gee, that is a bear.

i sure have seen a lot of recommendations to *not* try recording with SB cards though.

good luck to you. i would be nearly bald by now if i were dealing with that.
 
toobalicious said:
i think i remember reading somewhere that *all* soundblaster-type cards default to 48k?

you have used this setup before with no problems? gee, that is a bear.

i sure have seen a lot of recommendations to *not* try recording with SB cards though.

good luck to you. i would be nearly bald by now if i were dealing with that.
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Bald at 16? No thanks!

I'm pretty certain I've fixed both my problems now, hopefully it'll stay that way! Thanks for the help guys, I'm sure I wouldn't have got such a good response on other forums!
 
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