Time to boycott companies that reverse engineer?

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If you suspect a company of ripping off another companies
research and development whether in microphones, channel
strips, or mixers, etc., would you KNOWINGLY buy from them?

Sure the positive is that they're cheaper, how about the downsides like stifling new product designs, or the moral issue?

For sake of example only, let's call the injured party "company A",
and the one with the allegations "company B".
This is to protect ourselves and the bbs from legal issues!

FWIW, if there's compelling data that one company "stole" from
another I make it a point of not buying their product BTW.
What's your take on it though!
 
Did they steal from the best companies, or did they steal stuff that sucks?

Monopolies Suck, They overcharge and take consumers for everything they have. Theres nothing wrong with a little competition, and If you want to only buy original products from the original Inventors, GOOD LUCK!!!

Theres not many original designs left, and after 13 years the designs are an open record. thats the law.

So unless you have the time and the money to fight all the legal battles for all of the companies that used to enjoy monopolies, dont bother because 1 monkey dont stop no show.
 
Ok, then everything made in China and Taiwan is gone. And those guy at Roswell, their gone even though they don't exist.

Peace,
Dennis
 
is this the behringer thing again......i so fed up of people bashing there stuff there company.....who cares anymore about them. and ill be striangt i have some of there stuff and i like it. works for me right now till i can afford the "GOOD SHIT". so who cares your not losing any money on the deal.
 
For clarification, this topic is not limited to a single company,
it's about a common business practice of copying R & D.
Hopefully without sounding like a broken record, it's best if we
keep specific company names quiet because of any possible legal
ramifications.

P.S. Just because a product is "made in (fill in the blank),
doesn't mean necessarily it's a rip off, it can be a valid
way for a manufacturer to lower labor costs!
 
chessparov said:
P.S. Just because a product is "made in (fill in the blank),
doesn't mean necessarily it's a rip off, it can be a valid
way for a manufacturer to lower labor costs!
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You're exactly right. I don't approve of exporting jobs (we're suffering the fallout here locally from 15,000 jobs in the last two years being exported to SE Asia and Brazil), but ultimately these people have to compete.

That said, if someone showed me compelling (probably pictoral) evidence that X company directly ripped off Y company and that X company is a major player, while Y company is a little mom-and-pop, I'm not buying from X anymore.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but weren't the early AMD processing chips reverse engineered versions of the Intel chips?

Is it better to smother AMD and allow Intel to corner the chip market, or should we buy basically a copied technology in hope of sustaining competition?

Personally, I don't know.

JOAT
 
JOAT said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but weren't the early AMD processing chips reverse engineered versions of the Intel chips?

Is it better to smother AMD and allow Intel to corner the chip market, or should we buy basically a copied technology in hope of sustaining competition?

Personally, I don't know.

JOAT
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Reverse engineered? You're talking about the pre-Pentium stuff - Intel nailed them hard about it, too. That's why AMD went through that dark period where their chips were hopelessly inferior to Intel's (Pentium, PII) - they had to start from scratch. Then they busted their asses to catch up. They did. Now they've earned their place, after paying for their sins. So no, we should not smother AMD. They got their justice, mended their ways, and are operating a clean (on this issue, anyway) business.
 
Say it! You mean Behringer!!!!

I would not buy their inferior copies. They are shit probably made by under paid children in China. Free Tibet!
 
Way to keep the name out of this thread genious. Besides they are far from the only ones to do this.

As long as I can cut corners by using gear that is as good as the expensive stuff, but is less expensive because of this Ill go and buy from the lowest bidder. Period.

Horray for company B.

Company A Makes a 140.00 profit on thier peice when they sell one. Only an idiot would buy one while a continuity tester can be had for 3.00.

Company B sees this and desides to only make 45.00 each, stands to put company A out of buisness, on a product that is still aimed at idiots who cant figure out how to use a continuity tester.

At least with the status Quo The idiot gets to keep 100.00 in his pocket. Now the Idiot can get one of those v67 mics that alot of the other Idiots are using.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 
Politics?

I come to this thread to read about microphones. Now I'm seeing injured parties, compelling data, Behringer sucks, made in China, monopolies, yada, yada, yada. Please, I can get this crap at MSNBC. Take it to the CAVE!
 
Hey,
Maybe those kids in China NEED those jobs? Maybe Beh..... OOPS! I mean company B is providing a service and and a living for them, while providing us with a lower priced alternative. Some one will always buy the premium full-priced stuff, sometimes 'cause it's better, sometimes not. (some will pay more for cooler brands of bottled H2O) I come here to find out which selections from "B" companies will perform as well (or reasonably close) as selections from "A" companies. I want to record pleasing sounds. I don't have lots of $$$$. I don't think my mixer and mic purchases can solve the world's political woes. AND, sometimes well meaning do-gooder actions can have unintended consequences. In some countries people who are unemployed starve.
 
NY, sorry if my thread seemed politically incorrect for this forum.
There's more traffic here in terms of people who have shopped,
or about to shop for microphones and related products.
This was done to create more awareness of this situtation thereby.
The predatory practices of unethical companies is largely based upon
either the ignorance or apathy of the consumer IMHO.
Bringing this topic out into the open gives the consumer more information
to base their purchase decision on, and can force those companies to
become more accountable for their actions.
If this disturbs anyone they shouldn't feel compelled to read or respond
to the thread anyway-although all comments are welcomed!
 
If I wanted to start building a car, which would be the better route?

1) Develop one from scratch ignoring everything that had gone before?

2) Use a car that I already admired as a benchmark and work from there?

Should the USA stop sending up rockets because the technology was developed in Germany, of course not

Every company copies it is a fact of life, not to do so is stupidity
 
To copy one idea is stealing, to copy many is research!

Seriously, the intent was to focus on the outright stealing of specific
patents and patent pending ideas. If it didn't matter there wouldn't be
patent attorneys.

For sake of example, how would you feel if I stole your song's lyrics,
melody, and arrangement-then had a #1 hit with it?
Hey it's gotta be O.K., it's a love song, aren't there thousands of
love songs? Yeah right!
 
Exactly why we have patent Laws etc. I was not argueing that it was ethical, just a way of life.

You will find that as the Chinese reinvest the profits from their activites that they will start doing original R & D then we should really be worried ( remember the Japanese).
 
Correction Rockets were developed by germans but they were here in the US when they developed them . I think the Inventor was named Godderd.
 
I'll buy whatever I want from whomever I want.

Stupid thread.
 
I think what this boils down to is that there are some of us that would rather spend more of our hard earned money for a product made by a company that we consider "reputable", while others are not really concerned with the political/ethical forces involved and would just rather save a buck. I am really not in a position to say that either group (or step along the continuum between them) is right, but I will support companies that I believe are somewhat ethical. Whatever.

Matty
 
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