Three pre comparisons

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I'm about to make the first upgrade from my audio buddy and looking at the DMP3 how does that compare to what I get with the audio buddy?
Also considering the VTB-1
and maybe if I can rake together the coins a RNP (Already have the RNC and love it)
 
The only one I've used is the dmp3. For the price it was great. I used it next to a couple of high end pre's and while it was not as good, it held it's ground as well. I'm sure it's a step up from the audio buddy, but I've got no idea about the RNP. I've read plent of good stuff about the RNP though.

Jeremy
 
I have several of each (DMP-3 and RNP)
The dmp is a clear and quiet pre for delicate stuff. The RNP is slightly more aggressive sounding but has so much more headroom for drums and strong vocals. The RNP seems to have more beef and the ability to capture extended higher end over the DMP.

The RNP in my opinion is in a different league. I know it is twice the price, but eventually you will want something like it even if you can't purchase one right now. There is nothing wrong with taking "steps" with your purchases. But if you CAN afford the RNP it will be one purchase you probably will hang on to and never sell.

My opinion obviously.

Tom
 
bostonfan2 said:
Havent tried the DMP3 but if you
want to check out a tune recorded
exclusivley with the RNP ..........

http://www.songramp.com/view.ez?sampleid=12918

Theres a pic of it in a funky logic rack
on my studio site.

www.rpmrecording.com
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Hi BostonFan

Great song.

Would you elaborate on the recording process you used for this tune? What kind of room and acoustic products, was the guitar through a miced amp, or direct? What kind of amp, was the bass direct into the RNP, or using a direct box, or miced? Where did the drums come from, software, real?

Thanks for any insight.

Jeff
 
Thanks Jeff ! heres some info..

main recorder is a Roland VS 2480 24 / 384 V Tracks

Vocal chain was an EV-RE-20 into a RNP / RNC

Guitars were Gibson SG into POD 2.0 thru the RNP / RNC
acoustic is a Taylor miced with a Studio Projects C-1

Bass is a Fender Precision thru the same pre.

Drums are from a Roland V-Session Kit

Main room and vocal booth are treated
with acoustic foam. there are pics on thestudio site .

Ray
www.rpmrecording.com
 
Much luv to the DMP3 , a fine pre for it's price but if you have the oppty (and a few extra $$$), go and check out the Grace 101!!
 
I've only heard the RNP on recordings and on one pre challenge (acoustic guitar) vs. the DMP3. I thought the DMP3 sounded better in that particular acoustic guitar comparison, so I went out and bought it. On vocals and drums I dunno how the two would compare head-to-head, but I do know the DMP3 can sound very good on vocals with both condenser and dynamic mics.

OTOH, lots of very respected folks (Harvey Gerst, Fletcher, e.g.) like the RNP. So there ya go.
 
bostonfan2 said:
Thanks Jeff ! heres some info..

main recorder is a Roland VS 2480 24 / 384 V Tracks

Vocal chain was an EV-RE-20 into a RNP / RNC

Guitars were Gibson SG into POD 2.0 thru the RNP / RNC
acoustic is a Taylor miced with a Studio Projects C-1

Bass is a Fender Precision thru the same pre.

Drums are from a Roland V-Session Kit

Main room and vocal booth are treated
with acoustic foam. there are pics on thestudio site .

Ray
www.rpmrecording.com
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Hi bostonfan2

A couple more questions.

Can you tell me why you used the pod, instead of micing an amp?

Also, the pod is a preamp, and you sent it the RNP, another preamp. Did you simply turn the volume of the pod way down, and them amp it again with the RNP? Is there a setting on the Pod that makes it send a mic/guitar level signal, instead of a line level?

Can you tell me if the RNP added anything to the pod signal? I can see two possible outcomes of doing this: The sound gets worse, cause your adding more electronics to the path when you could have sent the pod straight to the recorder.. Or, the sound got better because the RNP added some kind of warmth or some integrity to the pod signal. Obviously, you think it did something good to the pod signal. I would like you to explain what it is that the RNP added to the pod signal, cause I am wondering if I should try the same thing. Does a preamp add something good to an already line level signal? Here is another way of asking. If we consider the pod signal as the original, then you have a choise of using no preamp (what should be the ultimate clean), or using the RNP to add something.


Thanks for any insight.

Jeff
 
Jeff,
heres some more info.....:)

"Can you tell me why you used the pod, instead of micing an amp?"

I was happy with the sound i was getting from the pod on this tune, the
added bonus was i could lay down these tracks at any time without the noise. With the right amp the sound
Could be better, if there was a better guitar player playing it that would help to :)

" Also, the pod is a preamp, and you sent it the RNP, another preamp. Did you simply turn the volume of the pod way down, and them amp it again with the RNP? Is there a setting on the Pod that makes it send a mic/guitar level signal, instead of a line level?"

The main reason the pod is run thru
the RNP is because i have an RNC
hooked into the RNP inserts. This allows me to compress before the signal hits the A/D converters.
The pod is not turned all the way down , but its low, i use the RNP for whatever gain i need. I never have
recorded without the RNP so i honestly
couldnt tell you the difference sonically
there is a switch on the pod for either
going to an amp , or a recorder .

Ray
 
Say, how does the DBX 386 compare to the pres mentioned in this thread? What's a reasonable price for them? I see them come up frequently in the local classifieds.
 
no one mentioned anything about the VTB-1--- Not many use it?

Looks like an interesting cheap option to have.
 
Sorry for the late reply, thanks for the input --
yea I really think I will wait till I can get the rnp or the grace 101

I will be using it mostly for vocals and acoustic guitar. do other stuff through a pod and a sansamp di box.
 
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