this might offend some bassists...

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SG1965 said:
Rhythmbug said:
hey just thought i should say be careful playing bass through a gtr amp because if the output is too hot from the bass it will kill your gtr amp (depending how beefy your amp is?).


The output of a bass guitar is the same as a regular guitar, what you have coming out of the amps to the speaekers is what you have to worry about. Guitar speakers dont have the low range, and will distort/blow with a bass at even slightly medium volumes. Guitar heads with bass cabs are fine. I have done that with my Stage 100 and a Fender 410, and an ampeg115, and it worked fine. The low E on a bass string is 30HZ, so make sure the guitar amp covers somewhere close to that low. DO NOT use guitar speakers, they will blow.

his quad box was fine, I blew a few of the fuses in his amp. The volume level was at....probably the level an average person has their TV set at.

you said the output of bass & guitar is the same, thats a big generalisation. what bass are you using?
I said I'm using a stingray 5. basses with active circuits have a higher output plus this bass has the lower B string. I have a 600w Trace Elliot head and it wont take the pre-gain past 11-12 o clock without clipping & distorting the signal.
Try plugging an 18v MM Bongo into your fender and see what happens ;)
 
SG1965 said:
Rhythmbug said:
hey just thought i should say be careful playing bass through a gtr amp because if the output is too hot from the bass it will kill your gtr amp (depending how beefy your amp is?).


The output of a bass guitar is the same as a regular guitar, what you have coming out of the amps to the speaekers is what you have to worry about. Guitar speakers dont have the low range, and will distort/blow with a bass at even slightly medium volumes. Guitar heads with bass cabs are fine. I have done that with my Stage 100 and a Fender 410, and an ampeg115, and it worked fine. The low E on a bass string is 30HZ, so make sure the guitar amp covers somewhere close to that low. DO NOT use guitar speakers, they will blow.

Sorry mate, but some of that stuff is utter bullshit. Many bassguitars (especially active ones) have outputs that are alot higher than electrical guitars. Also, 30hz is not a low E, it's actually below a low B on a 5 string bass. I'm not 100% sure about the low E frequency, but I'm possitive it's somewhere in the 40hz to 50hz range. Probably around 42hz. There's no guitar speaker that can reproduce that (in fact, most cheaper bass cabs have a hard time with that frequency range).
 
Halion said:
Sorry mate, but some of that stuff is utter bullshit. Many bassguitars (especially active ones) have outputs that are alot higher than electrical guitars. Also, 30hz is not a low E, it's actually below a low B on a 5 string bass. I'm not 100% sure about the low E frequency, but I'm possitive it's somewhere in the 40hz to 50hz range. Probably around 42hz. There's no guitar speaker that can reproduce that (in fact, most cheaper bass cabs have a hard time with that frequency range).


Right you are; from http://www.kettering.edu/~drussell/guitars/electric.html:

The low E on a guitar is 82 Hz. The Low E on a bass is half that, 41 Hz. That makes the low B on a 5 string about 30.8 Hz.
 
Whenever I use bass effects, I like to run the clean signal through a crossover, send the lows to a bass cab clean and effect the highs through a guitar cab.
 
Best plan is to split the bass signal so one goes into the distortion and one goes clean so you can combine them and prevent the bottom end dropping out...
 
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