This is my plan for recording my band

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Using a VF80 and due to it only having 2 inputs I will lay the basic drum track down with Reason on 1 track. Using that I can put down guitars and then I can record The drums Using 2 mics while the drummer listens to the guitars through the earphones. Can anyone suggest any improvements upon this plan?
 
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i havn't researched the VF80, but my MR-8 has a "CLICK TRACK" that is basically a metronome. It doesn't take up a recording track. A lot of stuff is recorded to the click track. It's something you might want to get used to playing to early in your career.

You seem to be off to a good start with your plan. As you grow and learn more, you will want to do more.

Like using more than 2 mikes for the kit. You will also learn about using different mikes to mike vocals, amp cabinets and the drums.

good luck! in your recording
 
Cheers Rick. I have used the Click track before and I was able to use this but I feel that the rest of my band would bugger up their timing without hearing the drum phrasing. How is it possible to record with more than 2 mics with only 2 inputs Would a set of drum mics all converge to be able to fit into one input or would I have to buya convertor box for them all to plug into?
 
mixer

you use a mixer, i use a 12 channel peavey and 7 mics recording drums, into a stereo mix....then into your recorder....

many smaller mixers available that will do the trick
 
Aaaahhhh! Right. I'd be able to borrow a mixer. Does anyone know how much it would cost to rent a set of drum mics for a day or 2? Damn this all starts to fall together. (when you have folk filling in the blanks for you!! :D )
 
bad news

well dopps, welcome to the wonderful world of wecording (bad joke...sorry)

I'm afraid i have some bad news for you. The more you learn, the more you realize that you didn't know as much as you thought you knew, so you have to learn even more. It is a never ending viscious circle.

The approach you are using has been mentioned on many post on this board. The feeling is that by recording the "scratch track" it gives the drummer something to 'play to'. With him being recorded live, and everyone playing back to the drum track, it give more of a live feeling rather than a whole bunch of mixed tracks.

I guess the good news here is the drums are considered about the hardest thing ro record right. It takes a lot of time to get the room set up, the kit set up and tuned, all the mikes set up and moved around and put where they sound right.

Then you get to learn about all the guitar recording. Mike the cab, DI, line in, bunches of decision there.

Then the vocals.

man, that sound like a lot of work. What was i thinking when i got into this?

anyway, good luck in your recording!

see ya 'round
 
radiorickm said:
The more you learn, the more you realize that you didn't know as much as you thought you knew, so you have to learn even more. It is a never ending viscious circle.
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I laughed when I read this!:D So, so True!
 
I have a minidisc deck and recorded on to this at the same time as the VF80. That way you have 4 tracks to record at once. I hit a microphone once before starting to play, so that after copying the 2 tracks from minidisc to the VF80, it is quite easy to line up the tracks in synch using the scrub feature. It is a very stupid feature of the VF80 to only be able to record on 2 tracks at once. It is even more stupid to not have direct outputs for each track - not a well thought out machine, more a sound effects box with recording thrown in!
 
I used to have an old Tascam with 4 inputs. I know how frustrating this is!!! Someone had mentioned using a mixer, and thats probably the most practical route for the drums. I have a drummer that REFUSES to use a click track!!! What we do now (with a VF160), is record the rhythm live. I use a 7 mic drum setup (5 with 2 overheads), record guitar direct via Line 6 POD and mic up the bass cab. A second rhythm guitar track is added thru mic'ing a cab. The only reason I dont mic up the intitial guitar track is because of bleeding...our room is not that good and there is always a ghost guitar track bleeding all over the place. This really works for us...we just had to get used to stringing headphones all over the place!!!

Im sure you'll find your likes, dislikes, what works and what doesnt, once you start recording this project. The most important thing is have fun will you are doing it and learn as you go.....Good luck and keep me updated on how things go!

BTW, you can get a decent drum mic kit for under 200.
 
Tidy. Is that in $ or £ becuase I'll be a happy chappy if it's in $ because in £ it'll only be about 130.
 
Using reason I have sorted the drums for the song. I am playing each drum seperately into seperate tracks. What I want to know is what would the best way to sync them up be? Is it just a case of trial and error?
 
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