This could be the stupidest question ever...

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I have a brand new Korg Triton LE and Cakewalk SONAR 2.0.

I have my Korg hooked up to my computer via the MIDI cables and the audio output/line in connector to use my Triton's sounds.

When I record and do playback on SONAR, it can only play one track, the one that is chosen under the Global MIDI settings on the Korg.

How can I get multiple channels using different patches to record and playback? Obviously there is a way, and this seems like it would be one of the first things you'd figure out, so I feel a little dumb asking, but can anyone help me?
 
Thanks for your help, but that didn't work for me, but I don't think it should have to be in COMBI mode anyway, unless I'm misunderstanding. If I could only use the combinations, then the hundreds of programs would be useless to me.

When I'm in Sonar, record one track, and arm another on channel 2, I can't hear anything when I'm hitting the keys.

Any more help would be appreciated.
 
Multiple MIDI tracks require multiple MIDI channels. The only way for your synth to respond to multiple MIDI channels is for it to operate in a multitimbral mode. That is what COMBI's are - multitmbral setups.
 
Are you saying that I can't use my Korg like I would my soundcard's synth, recording different patches in different tracks?
 
No, he is not saying that.

In SONAR, there are instrument definitions. They should already be in there for the Korg. I think your problem is SONAR, not the Korg.
Yes, you must be in Combi mode. Eventually, you will probably pick the Korg sounds with SONAR, and not even touch the Triton.

In sonar, get a midi track. To the right of "midi 1" double-click. This will pop up the track properties. Look around. Click on "instruments". If the Korg is not listed, click on "define" and go from there. Good Luck:cool:
 
I have the instrument definition for the Triton, and not the LE.

But the only banks showing are the program banks, not the combis.

Can I not use the programs at all? I'm sorry I'm so slow, but I'm still learning.
 
Cakewalk/SONAR plays only Program! NOT Combi (...sure you can, but much more complex. For now, lets solve it one by one). Combi mode in Triton is only the way you can play multi timbrall (Several Programs at once). Program mode plays ONLY ONE existing Program. It can also be done in SEQ mode. So, even though you are in Combi mode, you actually get the PROGRAM sound. I suggest you go into Combi mode, and assign each timbre's chanel to corespond chanel in SONAR. Timbre 1 to chanel 1, timbre 2 to chanel 2, etc... Play some DEMO midi file in SONAR (That's it, bundled with SONAR) just to see if it works... Come back latter for more if you need further assistance. I'll be glad to explain... :D
 
So far I've figured out how to record using the programs in the sequence mode, and I know how to record just a combi, playing one track, usually with the arp on.

I can't figure out how to separate the tracks in combi mode to different channels, because everything is assigned to the Global MIDI Channel.

Isn't there a way to record a track using whatever patch I want to by simply choosing the patch in SONAR? Is there a setting I can change so that every sound I play can be heard, and I can have up to sixteen different tracks?
 
goldenchild said:
So far I've figured out how to record using the programs in the sequence mode, and I know how to record just a combi, playing one track, usually with the arp on.

I can't figure out how to separate the tracks in combi mode to different channels, because everything is assigned to the Global MIDI Channel.

Isn't there a way to record a track using whatever patch I want to by simply choosing the patch in SONAR? Is there a setting I can change so that every sound I play can be heard, and I can have up to sixteen different tracks?
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Yeah, COMBI mode!

I think you need to find yourself a good MIDI book - you're still not grasping the concept...

MIDI is not audio - just information that tells devices what notes to play, how loud and program change messages.

http://www.midi.com/questions/midi_basics.asp

http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tutr/multi.htm
 
Never mind the Combi, since it only capable handling 8 timbre, set your Triton to SEQ mode. That's the only way you may get 16 different programs played at once. Did it ? good. Now, go set up your sonar. Here you will record your song & data. Leave any Triton's button untouch exc. the black and white piano like keyboards. You only need it to play, entering data while you play. Now in sonar, set MIDI track 1 to port assigned to your Triton (I assume 1). Set the channel to 1. Select the program. Now repeat that on MIDI track 2, 3,.. so on till 16. Did it ? good. Now you have 16 MIDI tracks assign to Triton's port. Track 1 channel 1, track 2 channel 2, so on till 16. Get it clear? Okay, now go to Options --> Project... -->MIDI Input. Check all Record and Echo MIDI Channels. Echo Mode Auto. Local on port 0. Did that ? Good !!!
Now arm track 1. Hit record. Play the Triton. finish. Rewind SONAR. Unarmed Track 1.Go to track 2. Arm it. Hit record... so on. See ?
Whats your problem ? :confused:

I can't figure out how to separate the tracks in combi mode to different channels, because everything is assigned to the Global MIDI Channel.
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Combi Edit mode. Go to Channel page. Here you can change each timbre's channel. You can even make them sounded internal (through the keyboards), external (through MIDI) or both.

Come back again for more... :)
 
Goldenchild- The guys are giving you good advice but it won't help if you don't do it.

Programs are single patches and can only be played one at a time. If you want to record that program with effects exactly as is you need to record the AUDIO signal.

If you want to have several MIDI tracks going at once you need to be in Combi or Seq mode and you need to assign each part to a different midi channel. The info for this is in your manual.

The parts will sound different because the effects have been changed and you will need to copy over the effects and do some editing if you want the Combi or Seq to use the same effects that were used on a Program.
 
Got it, fellas. Thanks a lot.

Sorry, I was just wondering if there was an easy way to simply choose whichever patches I want in SONAR without worrying about it any more, but it makes sense that I can't.

I got it down now.

Thanks guys.
 
You are almost there. You can make the changes in Sonar but you need the keyboard to be in Combi or Seq mode and it has to be set up to accept Program Changes. There is probably a Program Change protection that is turned off in Global.
 
Goes like this in GLOBAL Mode, MIDI FILTER.
Dis --> Triton wont accept Program changes
Num --> Triton ONLY accept Program changes, not the Bank changes
Ena --> Triton will accept Program changes and Bank changes
Prog --> Triton will accept Program change and Bank change in Combi Mode, so Sonar won't change the Combi number. Only the program and the prgram's bank "inside" the Combi.
 
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