thinning proximity effect w/ omnidirectional?

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My experience has shown me that the proximity effect is in no way the cause of plosives. However, the proximity effect does take certain plosives and "exaggerate" them so they become more apparent, but is not involved in the actual cause of them. I too was always under the impression that short hard bursts of air were the real cause. Miniature diaphragms are inherently more succeptible to them due to their tension designs, but often times do not reproduce them as well, which can be a good thing.
 
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My experience has shown me that the proximity effect is in no way the cause of plosives. However, the proximity effect does take certain plosives and "exaggerate" them so they become more apparent, but is not involved in the actual cause of them.
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I believe this is exactly correct.

And as far a sSDC vs LDC, the main difference in general between SDC and LDC is that the smaller diaphraghm can be more succeptable to self-noise; it's smaller mass is more easily moved by Brownian movememt of the air around it. Yet, on the other end ocf the scale, SDCs theoretically tend towards being able to handle higher SPLs better than LDCs. Neither of these are to say that there aren't individual mic designs that might break these rules - for example, there are many poor-quality LDCs out there that have much higher self-noise than your average LDC, but this is because of deficiencies in engineering design, not because of the size of the diaphragm itself.

But I have never read or experienced anything to indicate that there is a signifigant difference in succeptibility to plosives based upon diaphragm size. It'd be nice if Harvey were to find this thread and chime in ;) :).

G.
 
if you don't want the voice colored, that's an excellent choice (along with a clean pre)
along the same lines, no one sings directly in your ear, so why close mic anyway? (if you're looking for accuracy)

you'll need a good room for an omni, but aside from that it's a very good choice.
 
oh, and super sdc's tend to have lower output, but that will vary a lot by make.
 
I don't know the why's here, but my experience has been that I can get away with (but don't try) recording vocals with no pop screen on most LDCs, but forget it on most SDCs. If you get anywhere near them with a plosive, they go ballistic.



Harvy, Oh Harvy.......we need you.
 
I can't tell you the theory. I only know in my studio it happens. If it was just me, I'd wonder myself. But apparently many others here have had the same experience.
 
who?

it seems odd to me that mini omnis would inherently have a problem with this as they are used for lav mics as well...

i guess i'll check on RAP. :eek: i'm looking at getting a mini mic for an upright thing...if they have problems with that stuff i can't be bothered. :D

laters.
 
Well, even lavs have this problem. If you have ever really used lav mics you will know that they are much more prone to picking up the crap you don't want than standard mics are.
 
thanks for all the reply's. I had left the thread for a while.

The problem was that I was applying too much gain as little dog pointed out.

I leave the gain at the lowest setting on the grace 101 (I thought that meant zero, but it's actually 10db).

Now the sound comes through wonderfully. It sounds real good now compared to all the frustration I've been going through. Finally I have found what I am looking for.

(unfortunately, I dropped the mic and the tip bended a little bit. Freaked me out, but it still sounds completely fine. I called earthworks and they said to repair it, it's $400 for a new tip :eek: he said the only problem is the ground could have problems after some time.?? anyone know what he's talking about)
 
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