the way it is

i know you all secrety love the nubmeister because he is one funny son of a bitch. i crack most of my clients up. i tell you a thing about customer service. come with me to the '80's children . . . lines of coke off the console and sweetnubs knows the best massage parlors. as far as politics go i just brought it up 'cause i know track rat is one cross eyed inbred red-neck. he has an unwarranted hostility towards gay folk. come out and visit me somewhere in the vincinity of the bay area, (or is that chicago?) i know plenty of folks who'd love to break you in. all right i'll talk about food then . . . the fish tacos in main land mexico along the west coast are way better than the deep fried baja fish tacos. how sweet is your nub?
 
pipelineaudio said:
You gotta eat a LOT of shit, a LOT in order to lerarn how to be all things to all people. See how happy you would be if you have educted yourself that much, work around rich RICH snobs all the time, and yet take home less than someone working at mcdonalds. You can get bitter quick.
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So I get to work for those very McDonalds workers you're talking about. :D Either that or I get the extreme tighwads. You don't think guys like me eat our occasional turd or two? :D
 
I think swinenuts is sweet on ya Track Rat.

He must have checked your posts in the MP3 Clinic and realized you have more talent in a nuthair than he has in his mouth.


Or is it that he is talented with nuthairs in his mouth? Or is it that he is having talent auditions for nuthairs with mouths? Or is it that he is mouthing talented nuthairs?... Enquiring minds don't want to know.

:D
 
sweetnubs said:

i'm a bit testy because i'm sick of home studio hacks cutting into a professionals business because they went and bought an m-box and now they think they are a recording engineer. i do get a lot more work consulting though which i hate doing.
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I have a funny feeling there really is another reason for your lack of clients... lol. DJL
 
Nubs,

So, this diatribe is because you're upset that homereccers are cutting into your client base? Still, this IS homerecording.com, and all these folks, myself with my Marshall and Rode mics and my Digi 001 and plugins included, come here to learn how to get the most out of our gear. I'm not sure what you're hoping to achieve with your rant -- at best you get to vent, at indifference (for everyone else here ultimately) you get to alienate people who hang out at this site. But you're certainly not going to discourage anyone from "cutting into your business."

Seems that, being free of the mediocre-to-crappy low-budget band demos, you could redirect your efforts and market yourself to put your high-quality gear toward interesting higher-end productions ... if you haven't alienated the contacts you've developed over the last several years (re: '80s comment).

So really, in posting that list -- part truths most of us know, part just your opinion -- what are you trying to achieve? Help us help you.
 
no, like i mentioned before i have no problem with home studios as a hobby. sweetnubs is upset with inexperienced people with crappy gear who fool innocent musicians into thinking they have a real studio and they are real engineers. i don't have a problem with cutting 3 song bar band demos at home for a few hundred bucks. but trying to record full length albums and thinking you can pull it off with a peice of m-audio crap and waves plug-ins for mastering is ridiculous. i have pulteqs in the studio and won't even master through them, i direct my clients to actual professional mastering engineers who i wouldn't hold a candle too. like i said before a very experienced engineer could probably get away with it, but not "sally q hosa" and "johnny tsr-8". but then again i should look at it in a different light. i don't have to deal with as much shitty musicians who blame you for the fact that they suck. of course i still do on occasion hence why i think the proficiency exam is a great idea. no more autotune, sample triggering and endless cutting, pasting and time stretching. it's even worse when you get an shitty indie band that wants to stay all analog. christ all the measuring, cutting and splicing can drive you insane. here's a tip to all the david h. "phillips" out there, learn how to tune drums. i can't count the number of times of gone into the drum room and tuned a kit while the drummer is out doing whatever in the hell drummers do. (i've yet to figure those guys out) then they come back and say how great the sound is. there sweet nubs helped again. also for your home-work "dr. sample" look up the words: "pink noise, equilateral triangle, measurement mic, spectrum analyzer, room mode, ray tracing, absorption and diffusion" that should get every "jimmy joe meek" and "alice audio buddy" going. just trying to spread some nub love around.
 
sweetnubs said:
also for your home-work "dr. sample" look up the words: "pink noise, equilateral triangle, measurement mic, spectrum analyzer, room mode, ray tracing, absorption and diffusion" that should get every "jimmy joe meek" and "alice audio buddy" going.
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Why you get so much thrill out of reciting these big terms you copied out of your Audio Institute of America text book I find kind of puzzling. My guess is that more than half of us here are very familiar with room modes, and have used pink noise samples, measurement mics, and spectrum analyzers in spotting trouble frequencies . . . and I'm sure a great many of us have the necessary bass and low-mid traps to deal with them. Homemade of course, so as to save some money, but nonetheless accomplishing the same tasks. Low ceilings can sometimes be issues, but we learn to deal with them.

You're funny nubs, and I like you but you're kinda' making yourself look silly. :D

But that's why we love our new friend, Nubs.
 
you know, i thought about this a little more, and my new attitude is fuck you.

if you're so god damn good, and worth the money..whatever that may be...then people should be coming to you with good business.

if they don't care about the quality as much, and just want a product...then it's either change or die for you my friend.

the one good point now, is what pipeline said about the home studio not paying taxes.

that does make things a bit difficult, at the same time...having a nice studio facility to work in will certainly bring in enough clientel to pay for the taxes, at the very least.

it's all starting to seem like bad whining to me now. "he stole my business".

so what. go team up with steve jobs and cry about it for a bit.

like that one bill vs. steve quote way back in the early 80s..

steve: "my stuff is better"
bill: "that doesn't matter"
 
ever since sweetnubs left the comfy confines of his salaried studio gig and opened his own studio he finds it harder to find clients. sweetnubs wanted to get away from "bands" that are really nothing more than sound modules, drum mahcines, samplers, autotune, and studio musicians fronted by mr. sideburns or mrs. midriff. i have my regulars, word of mouth and often freelance in other studios hence that is why i am flying to LA tomorrow. sweetnubs hates having to pay all the extra money to pack up his monitors and fly them around and he especially hates LA. all y'all will be about 5 days without postings from sweet sweet nubs. but believe it or not studios aren't constantly locked out, just ask your local professional engineer how business has changed recently. even the occasional audio porn book pays the bills. property taxes suck and nubby is not living off mommy and daddy and has mortage payments, car payments, huge gear induced credit card payments, insurance, catering bills, and is greatly in debt because of his recording advance from his early musician days.

chessrock as you know sweetnubs is just giving roger "rane" and "audrey aleisis" a little homework project that might make the "toob" turn on inside their head that perhaps that is why there is a distinction between professionals and "holly home-recording" sweetnubs knows or at least hopes most professionals are aware of these things. the only thing i think i stated that professionals would maybe disagree with with is the whole analog/digital thing. for one instance that is where home recordist do get a little edge: cheap digital is better than cheap analog. (especially if you are not familiar with calibration tapes, oscilliscopes and nanowebers)

by the way i wouldn't team up with jobs 'cause macs are overpriced hunks of junk, but boy they shure have a bitchin' look . . . hahahahah. if i had a dime for every grey-haired baby boomer with a pony tail engineer that told me how great macs were i'd retired on the coast of spain where the sweetest nubs really are . . .
 
Sooo...basically your bithing cuz your broke, in debt, and have a million dollars worth of high end gear but nobody to use it on?

You need a hug? :)



Anybody wanna start a sweetnub charity fund?




Anybody?


Didn't think so..


If your gettin your ass kicked by average homerecorders with a computer..then you must really suck...:D

Boy...Sometimes you just wanna reach through your monitor and smack somebody..
 
sweetnubs

the nubster only loses a little business to home recording. what i mentioned earlier and what nubile nubby hates the most is editing. i really hate editing. i get tons of badly recorded tracks that i constantly have to fix because people are too cheap to re-track. some idiot brought in some adats back a while ago and i think the hottest level was around -30. you can't fix that shit. home recordists mis-use their shit then the nubian nub love button has to try to fix it which is hell on earth. a lot of times it is impossible and then they look at me like i'm the idiot. that combined with my hatred of pro-tools makes me want to drop my droppings on the hack "pro" home recordists. everybody thinks now they can track at home then go to the studio and mix on the 'ol neve. like that is going to take out poor gain structure and rode rice krispies. thank god i get classical, jazz and bluegrass work to ease the pain. christ did i mention sound replacer? please shoot me now.
 
Damn dude..you need to relax...It's not that bad..

You must be going thru a musical mid-life crisis..

Roll a jay, sit back and take a deep breath..:)
 
"that does make things a bit difficult, at the same time...having a nice studio facility to work in will certainly bring in enough clientel to pay for the taxes, at the very least."

not necessarily unfortunately. But it really is a stupidly complicated issue. One of the nasty things that happens is a crap studio pops up, crappy engineer. We say " oh well just wait till this crap place kills themselves from suckage"

sooner or later they croak, but before you can breath a sigh of relief, they are selling their stuff for MUCH MUCH cheaper than they bought it, to an even crappier engineer, and so the chain of destruction continues, at unreal low rates. If you add a few independently wealthies to the equation who do not need to eat from their studio income, it gets real UGLY FAST
 
sweetnubs said:
a site dedicated to home recording and someone has the handle "recording engineer" now if that isn't an original stroke of genius.
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Are you serious? You really like wasting your time and your genius mind mentioning this?!!! Over a fucking username?!!!

Oddly enough, you chose to make an example out of my user name when I'm damn-near the only one in this useless thread that you started (Where's the original stroke of genius in this thread?) who didn't give you a nickname based on your username because of you being an asshole here!

Funny thing is, my username was probably chosen before you ever got online! It was back before all these recording newsgroups and BBS' were around and this site hadn't been up for very long. I chose it so I knew I'd remember it; something generic like that! Glad I did too, because in this day and age of usernames and passwords... Of course, this was back when sonusman first arrived here too! He, shalit, and me use to be all-over this BBS'

Moving-on...

So why do I choose not to have an intelligent conversation/debate (whatever you want to call it) and not reply to the things I agree or disagree with, in all that you say?

Simply put, you're impossible to socialize with! You haven't proven ANYTHING here other than you have a "holier than thou" attitude, get-off on being an asshole, and are here for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING more than to stir-up shit, pick fights, and toot your own horn!!! NOTHING we haven't seen before (Where's the original stroke of genius?) Why do you chose ANY of this, I won't even try to figure-out!

And I don't want to socialize with you! YOU make it that way!!! I HAVE to deal with enough people with the same negative attitudes, characteristics, and actions as you in the real world! Why would I want to spend any free time dealing with it in cyberspace too?!!!

You know, my insticts tell me you just got out of "recording school" or been at it for a few years and are just frustrated with your gear and the results you get, and that you haven't got your "big break" yet. Why? Because there's SO MUCH finger-pointing that you've almost covered everyone but one person!

BUT, MAYBE, I'm wrong! Maybe you're as big of a professional (or whatever the hell you claim yourself to be) recording engineer (or whatever the hell you claim yourself to be) as you say or think you are and have decades of experience (or at least twice as much as me). And MAYBE, just maybe, you are as astonishing of a recording engineer as you think you are and talk yourself-up to be!

I certainly hope I'm not wrong; for one reason only... Anyone with as much negative attitude, characteristics, and actions as you've displayed here within doesn't deserve any natural raw talent for the arts or deserve being given the opportunity to polish it! If you really are where you say you are, I can only suspect you've step-on a lot of people to get there! You've shown NOTHING to hint otherwise!

What's so disappointing is to know that you DO have some very valid issues you bring-up! Stuff I somewhat, mostly, or completely agree with! BUT, you don't bring them to the table to discuss! No, you bring them strictly to pick fights! And you bring them as if they're original epiphanies as only your great and powerful mind can produce. You're doing NOTHING but fooling yourself!

As soon as I think you MIGHT have ANY trace of reason in that great and powerful mind of yours, you come with some of the most ignorant and generalizing statements having to do with our industry and choice of hobby and then of blame to do with politics, religion, and domestic and international relations (NONE of which are original strokes)! After hearing those things, I loose any trace of reason I've seen in you!

Along with your "holier than thou" attitude, you also like to speak in the third person. If that's your thing... But don't give me that "original stroke of genius" bullshit! We've had many of those around here too!!!

You want intelligent conversation or debate? Learn how to be a man first!
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Doggonit guys. I guess this is really "the way it is." Ha! ah...pardon me while I puke. The way it really is, is a fucking lie. Pro studios lie. because the recordings lie. The "artists" lie. The whole music "biz" is a fucking lie. They know it. We know it. The public is starting to know it too. Prorec lives in a fucking dream world. While the REAL world goes about is daily business, the pro recording industry is at their dreary little alchemy labs, doing their dreary little job of transforming morons into more "artists" that are a prefabbed, autotuned, multitracked, computer edited, mixed, mastered and duplicated lie. I've got more respect for my plumber. At least he's for real. And so are most home recordings. Because unlike "pros" here, most people who frequent here, have to get up in the morning, and go to work in the "real world", and don't have the time or the stomach for making recordings of a lie. Thats why I would listen to a homerecording rather than a pro CD anyday. Even if it sucked. At least its a record of the truth. Thats more than I can say about the pro world of recording. THATS the way it REALLY is. So give me a fucking break. I don't give a SHIT about your SSL's, or your 2" tape machines, or your fucking protools.
A good cabinet maker doesn't need a CNC to build a table. A good home recordist doesn't need all your "pro gear" to record either. He just likes to record the truth. Which is more than I can say about the pro engineer. And if more pro studios recorded the TRUTH, then there would be far fewer socalled "artists" in the world. Only real ones. Besides, in reality, a recording is only a second rate copy of the real thing. And most recordings today are difinitely not of the REAL THING. Just listen to the radio.
fitz:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Pipe, I don't want to take money out of your pocket and it's very unlikely that the type of folks I end up recording for would be clients you'd be attracting anyway (Don Dokken and I aren't on speaking terms after that deal with the tequila and the sheep:D )
On the other hand, this dude with a nub where most guys have a dick (anyone who referes to themselves in the third person needs to be gang raped by the Village People) can drown in his own blood just before the gasoline tanker truck he rear ended explodes as far as I'm concerned. You trolled in here to start a shit storm and it worked. I'm done trading insults with you. It's enough for me to know you're a failure. Go cry in your beer somewhere else piss boy. Wait for the shake.
 
Sweetnubs, Sounds like your frustration stems from everything sucking in your world with the exception of your girlfriend.
 
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